General & Others IF NAVY SHOWN UP TO WANO HOW BIG/STRONG FORCE SHOULD BE

[Just a member]

To start with to fight vs old WB they needed their full power: fleet admiral and Garp, 3 admirals, all VA, elite marines (weaker ones were not called since they would have been useless due to haki), 7 warlordsa, an army of PX and the advantage of fighting at home (fortified positions with cannons, barrier to stop people etc) whioe WB had his crew woth 4 ships + all his allies.

Now we have Kaido and his crew and all his allies most likely (the numbers who usually ate not around) since there is the banquet then there is BM with a fraction of his crew woth at least a YC2 with her and several veterans, after this we have also Orochi and his samurais who will fight with Kaido and on the top of that you want to add the supposed 5th emperor, Kidd, Law and crews plus minks.

The navy would need the same level of power displayed at Marineford and would still lose. Not for nothinflg Garp said that if the Rocks reformed there was nothing they could do and this is the former Rocks + Wano, minks, Luffy, Kidd, Law.. Way too much for the navy.

 

[kom5]

Or though port mogura?

And how ???

 

[Veljko]

And how ???

Go thought, ik its should be very defended but i dont Have doubt admirals would do easy/Quick job and at onigashima they gonna be busy waging war, we already saw example where ships that gone to sink samurai boat couldn't get onigashima as they were partying, and there is possibility there are WGs(Sword members?) at port stationed where they could land a big hand to Navy

 

[kom5]

Go thought, ik its should be very defended but i dont Have doubt admirals would do easy/Quick job and at onigashima they gonna be busy waging war, we already saw example where ships that gone to sink samurai boat couldn't get onigashima as they were partying, and there is possibility there are WGs(Sword members?) at port stationed where they could land a big hand to Navy

Lol first its again from the sea side
second thats what Im saying a small-task force is going there first to prevent the BP from counterattacking them

third the problem is this port prob cant lift up 20 giant battleships they will need time to transport them up so the port is an bad idea its prob Fujitora who will levate them and come from the sky

the boats started to sail from Kuri the disadvantage of the marines are there at the bottom
even if they use the port transporting ten thousands of men will take time
geographical wano is very hard to conquor by sea


So Kizaru and Co will first land on wano make an diversion while Fujitora will levate all battleships anything else would end in a disaster

 

[Veljko]

Lol first its again from the sea side
second thats what Im saying a small-task force is going there first to prevent the BP from counterattacking them

third the problem is this port prob cant lift up 20 giant battleships they will need time to transport them up so the port is an bad idea its prob Fujitora who will levate them and come from the sky

the boats started to sail from Kuri the disadvantage of the marines are there at the bottom
even if they use the port transporting ten thousands of men will take time
geographical wano is very hard to conquor by sea


So Kizaru and Co will first land on wano make an diversion while Fujitora will levate all battleships anything else would end in a disaster

I agree with you, but i still think port mogura will play some part in story (Try blocking pirate escape?) but Why they don't transport it immediately while Kaido & BM gonna be busy as we know they will not gave time to stop? All at once ?

 

[Patryipe]

I'd say 2 Admirals. Kizaru solos Meme and Kaido, Green Bull solos everyone else.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

10 Battleships, for a total of 10,000 marines.
Numerous lower ranks such as Captain/Rear Admiral
20 Pacifista
10 Vice Admirals, one for each ship.
1 Admiral. Probably Greenbull.

 

[kom5]

I agree with you, but i still think port mogura will play some part in story (Try blocking pirate escape?) but Why they don't transport it immediately while Kaido & BM gonna be busy as we know they will not gave time to stop?

the problem is the capacity the battleships they use in the grandline are gigantic

Its really impossible to land a large army on the surface of Wano without the enemy ambush you or destroy you on your way there just dropping dynamits there would lead to an collateral damage

immediately is nigh impossible there look at the size of the ship and compare it to an giant battleship of the marines

these 3 battleship should be comparable in size to the marine battleships if they would stand side to side the ships of our would look a lot of smaller

the main problem here is the speed using the port even if its possible to lift giant ships it will take time to transport them up and the lift come down

the problem is how to they plan to transport those ship with lifts without the enemy being alarmed ?

 

[Veljko]

the problem is the capacity the battleships they use in the grandline are gigantic

Its really impossible to land a large army on the surface of Wano without the enemy ambush you or destroy you on your way there just dropping dynamits there would lead to an collateral damage

immediately is nigh impossible there look at the size of the ship and compare it to an giant battleship of the marines

these 3 battleship should be comparable in size to the marine battleships if they would stand side to side the ships of our would look a lot of smaller

the main problem here is the speed using the port even if its possible to lift giant ships it will take time to transport them up and the lift come down

the problem is how to they plan to transport those ship with lifts without the enemy being alarmed ?

As enemy couldn't get alarmed? They gonna be focused on onigashima (they didn't got alarmed because of partying when ships at sea wanted to warn), same thing with udon (but here Raizo did job but sword could do job here) and we don't know how fast it can transport (via port),
But i think Fujitora lifting ships would be fastest and safest option

 

[Finalbeta]

Ok if Navy joins fight how big/strong their force should be?
At Wano we have

• Beast pirates with their full force which still partying and Alliance will attack them and take them off guard
• Bulk of Big Mom Pirates
• Criminals of Alliance (rembember Kid, Luffy, Law are still Pirates and Neko & Inu were in past and maybe their bounties are still active)

And consider one buster Call is 5 Vice Admirals with 10 batleship and 1000 men on each ship which means 10 000 soldiers are in buster Call
And they gonna go between themselves but how big should Navy force be if they decide to interve and to succeed

Some tags which i think will have interest here
@Red Admiral
@Buusatan94
@TheAncientCenturion
@Finalbeta
@Cinera

Navy would solo since their number of top tiers is consistently bigger I suppose

That's the key factor

 

[Rosella.Fiamingo]

All 3 Admirals need to show up otherwise they're getting baby shaked.

 

[kom5]

As enemy couldn't get alarmed? They gonna be focused on onigashima (they didn't got alarmed because of partying when ships at sea wanted to warn), same thing with udon (but here Raizo did job but sword could do job here) and we don't know how fast it can transport (via port),
But i think Fujitora lifting ships would be fastest and safest option

Maybe but its too high of risk to take the gamble

taking out the communication thats problem the task the small force they would send first would do

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

I say Garp + Kizaru + 2 Buster call level of fleet will come

I think if Garp doesn't participate in this war... which involves the Rocks... then Oda did him dirty... because he shouldn't even matter during the EoS war honestly... Oda should end the Rocks Era in this... and with it... I prefer the idea that Garp will sacrifice himself in this war to protect Luffy... however he will aid him in becoming stronger in some kid of plot...

Like for example, let's assume that Luffy fights Kaido in 2-3 rounds... Garp can play a role in making Luffy apply an advanced technique in between those rounds...

While during a final round... Luffy teams with Garp or something... and Garp meets his end in some twisted way...

It is just 100 times more impactful than Law or Kinemon for example... and he's also old... If there is a battlefield where garp meets his end and have his final moments... it should be the war against the NEWLY REVIVED Rocks Pirates... while his grandson will be responsible in taking the torch and take down that alliance...


In this war, the ONLY TWO DEATH that can make me have tears and cry are:
1- Garp
2- Grandpa Hyo

Those are the ONLY two character I can actually have emotions if they died.. and I can actually see GREAT CHANCES of it happening... Oh, can you imagine Kaido kills Grandpa Hyo who was Luffy's sensei in this war? right in front of his eyes.... WOW... or Garp dying by Big Mom for example.... it really builds FUCKING awesome impact for Luffy like crazzzy!

On the other hand, Kinemon dying? Law Dying? I can see Luffy caring... but honestly I couldn't give a crap about them!

 

[Bil02]

To start with to fight vs old WB they needed their full power: fleet admiral and Garp, 3 admirals, all VA, elite marines (weaker ones were not called since they would have been useless due to haki

wasn't Smoker and tashigi called ?
Anyways,agree with the rest of your post.
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To start with to fight vs old WB they needed their full power: fleet admiral and Garp, 3 admirals, all VA, elite marines (weaker ones were not called since they would have been useless due to haki

wasn't Smoker and tashigi called ?
Anyways,agree with the rest of your post.

 

[Ulti]

My guess is Garp and an admiral and some important vice admirals like Smoker, Hina, tokikake and Chaton with other familiar faces

 

[Sanji D Cook]

The Marines would need all 3 Admirals, one buster call worth of marines along with SSG. Wano currently has Kaido, Big Mom, and Orochi to deal with along with their subordinates.

 

[Aknolagon]

Can't be a buster call, and not at all 2 or 3 unless oda wants Wano to be deleted lol.

 

[BOCCHI]

It shouldn’t be too powerful imo... sending an admiral (Kizaru?!) with three battleships! Under his command we have the the two admiral candidates, Sentomaru and the fat guy shown in ch.925 along them with the Japanese looking face and weird hair!

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

They’re not sending 3 admirals because we already know that Fujitora is currently in a naval battle with Boa Hancock

I don’t think they’re gonna send 2 admirals because 1 has to stay at the marine base with Akainu in case another drastic event takes place E.g Blackbeard attacking the navy base or Blackbeard attacking the Celestial Dragons

If they do send reinforcements I think they’ll likely send 1 admiral and a buster call. 1 admiral will be enough to fight BM and the 5 Vice admirals and co. should be able to hold their own against the BM pirate crew which is at Wano.

 

[Finalbeta]

All 3 Admirals need to show up otherwise they're getting baby shaked.

2 admirals can beat Kaido and BM + Luffy
Another to beat Zoro

Makes sense

Though the other nova and commanders might prove an important nuisance