Anime & Manga If Sanji and Zoro are wings then why?…
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because it was about new gen (worstgen) vs old gen as symbolism.
Sanji wasn't part of worstgen. So only worst generation on alliance side was on the roof
They did. Their fight literally started like that by defending one another.
Also I remember there was a panel of them being back to back fighting offscreen
Because there is such thing as "strongest of the equals"
Just like there is a strongest admiral between 3 admirals. That doesn't mean they all aren't on the same level
What do you think it means then?
Sanji wasn't part of worstgen. So only worst generation on alliance side was on the roof
They did. Their fight literally started like that by defending one another.
Also I remember there was a panel of them being back to back fighting offscreen
Because there is such thing as "strongest of the equals"
Just like there is a strongest admiral between 3 admirals. That doesn't mean they all aren't on the same level
What do you think it means then?
The fights weren’t tag team. They separated to their individual fights. Zoro guarded Sanji from King and Sanji guarded Zoro from Queen. They were still fighting there respective opponents.
When Sanji fought King earlier in the arc it was a one sided clash in Kings favor.
There is no such thing as strongest among equals. The admirals have an equal title not equal strength.
If someone is stronger then they can’t be equal regardless of the gap.
Doffy and Mihawk are both warlords and Mihawk is obviously stronger.
idk, didn't Oda say he came up with supernova on the spot?
It's not like worstgen is a prestige title. You have jobbers like Hawkins and Drake there. You think it's an impressive title?
Yeah, because Queen and King were going for their opposite opponents...
I literally posted a panel of them fighting back to back
How was it a one sided clash? Sanji blocked King's kick while holding momo.
Then while Sanji was talking to Momo, King got a dive bomb free attack on Sanji who was not defending himself and King still failed to do any damage to Sanji. Which is embrassing for King.
And don't try to post that anime filler crap.
of course there is. You think Admirals are not in the same league and there is huge gap in strength?
I think you took an "equal" too literally. It means they are relative to one another
Except warlord is not a strength title. It's notoriety.
What do you think "wings of the pirate king" means?
It's not like worstgen is a prestige title. You have jobbers like Hawkins and Drake there. You think it's an impressive title?
Yeah, because Queen and King were going for their opposite opponents...
I literally posted a panel of them fighting back to back
How was it a one sided clash? Sanji blocked King's kick while holding momo.
Then while Sanji was talking to Momo, King got a dive bomb free attack on Sanji who was not defending himself and King still failed to do any damage to Sanji. Which is embrassing for King.
And don't try to post that anime filler crap.
of course there is. You think Admirals are not in the same league and there is huge gap in strength?
I think you took an "equal" too literally. It means they are relative to one another
Except warlord is not a strength title. It's notoriety.
What do you think "wings of the pirate king" means?
Just picture this, Zoro and Luffy face off against two characters with close bounties named King and Queen, then Robin gives those two a special duo name THEN they beat their opponents back to back while also having almost equal bounties. The same people that use Whiskey peak to argue the closeness of Zoro and Luffy can't pretend like they wouldn't use all these evidences to prove that their close. And if this was the case I am certain the fandom would have no problem understanding the implications of all these facts. People say "Wings means reliability" as if that's proof it has nothing to do with strength, but the question here is what falls under reliability?, what makes them the most reliable?, is strength not apart of it?. If we dismiss strength and say it's only importance then we are implying that Zoro and Sanji carry more importance than Nami or Ussop, which is objectively false, a crew based off of interdependence doesn't have ranks of value, this isn't a meritocracy.
So, what does wings imply?; it's obvious that wings by nature are comparable in their capabilities, so what are said capabilities?; easy, strength and leadership, these are the two things that separate Zoro and Sanji from the rest, they are relative in these two aspects, the only two capable of handling powerful opponents and the only two capable of shouldering the captains burden and in these two aspects they stand out as comparably reliable.....easy to understand when you have no agenda.
So, what does wings imply?; it's obvious that wings by nature are comparable in their capabilities, so what are said capabilities?; easy, strength and leadership, these are the two things that separate Zoro and Sanji from the rest, they are relative in these two aspects, the only two capable of handling powerful opponents and the only two capable of shouldering the captains burden and in these two aspects they stand out as comparably reliable.....easy to understand when you have no agenda.
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Couple of things. It doesn't matter if Oda came up with it on the spot or not why didn't he include Sanji?
So if they were fighting their respective opponents and split them up for 95% of the fight how is that a tag team?
I believe the anime is filler to but if the portrayal was wrong them Oda would stop it.
Sanji doesn't use his hands so why is holding Momo relevant?
How is King attacking Sanji off guard when Sanji turned invisible to sneak in between two commanders? If that King attacking Sanji in that moment makes him look bad how does Sanji look for attacking Queen with IJ when he turned around?
Warlord is a strength based title but wings for sure isn't.
So if they were fighting their respective opponents and split them up for 95% of the fight how is that a tag team?
I believe the anime is filler to but if the portrayal was wrong them Oda would stop it.
Sanji doesn't use his hands so why is holding Momo relevant?
How is King attacking Sanji off guard when Sanji turned invisible to sneak in between two commanders? If that King attacking Sanji in that moment makes him look bad how does Sanji look for attacking Queen with IJ when he turned around?
Warlord is a strength based title but wings for sure isn't.
I told you I don't know nor do I care.
Worst gen title holds no meaning. Do you find it impressive when jobbers like Hawkins are in it?
I was responding to a post that said they didn't have tag team, which they did a little and maybe a lot offscreen
stop being a naiive child. Oda doesn't consult episodes.
It's outsourced episode to some 3rd world shitter where they pay beans for money
They are so incompetent, they gave Garp the fist a sword
because he was switching Momo between his hands in the chapter. Shock waves hurt
I never said he attacked Sanji off guard. Sanji didn't care about King, he was talking to Momo while King was grabbing Sanji's stomach with his beak
And what does sanji turning invisible to grab momo has to do with this?
what?
King doing 0 damage to Sanji makes him look bad
warlord is not based on strength. BB literally just tried to capture someone worth 100mil in order to become a warlord
Buggy became a warlord because he had strong fodder
Law became a warlord because of 100 hearts
Anyway, if wings don't mean strength, what do they mean?
Why are Zoro and Sanji above other crewmemebers?
Worst gen title holds no meaning. Do you find it impressive when jobbers like Hawkins are in it?
I was responding to a post that said they didn't have tag team, which they did a little and maybe a lot offscreen
stop being a naiive child. Oda doesn't consult episodes.
It's outsourced episode to some 3rd world shitter where they pay beans for money
They are so incompetent, they gave Garp the fist a sword
because he was switching Momo between his hands in the chapter. Shock waves hurt
I never said he attacked Sanji off guard. Sanji didn't care about King, he was talking to Momo while King was grabbing Sanji's stomach with his beak
And what does sanji turning invisible to grab momo has to do with this?
what?
King doing 0 damage to Sanji makes him look bad
warlord is not based on strength. BB literally just tried to capture someone worth 100mil in order to become a warlord
Buggy became a warlord because he had strong fodder
Law became a warlord because of 100 hearts
Anyway, if wings don't mean strength, what do they mean?
Why are Zoro and Sanji above other crewmemebers?
I told you I don't know nor do I care.
Worst gen title holds no meaning. Do you find it impressive when jobbers like Hawkins are in it?
I was responding to a post that said they didn't have tag team, which they did a little and maybe a lot offscreen
stop being a naiive child. Oda doesn't consult episodes.
It's outsourced episode to some 3rd world shitter where they pay beans for money
They are so incompetent, they gave Garp the fist a sword
because he was switching Momo between his hands in the chapter. Shock waves hurt
I never said he attacked Sanji off guard. Sanji didn't care about King, he was talking to Momo while King was grabbing Sanji's stomach with his beak
And what does sanji turning invisible to grab momo has to do with this?
what?
King doing 0 damage to Sanji makes him look bad
warlord is not based on strength. BB literally just tried to capture someone worth 100mil in order to become a warlord
Buggy became a warlord because he had strong fodder
Law became a warlord because of 100 hearts
Anyway, if wings don't mean strength, what do they mean?
Why are Zoro and Sanji above other crewmemebers?
Worst gen title holds no meaning. Do you find it impressive when jobbers like Hawkins are in it?
I was responding to a post that said they didn't have tag team, which they did a little and maybe a lot offscreen
stop being a naiive child. Oda doesn't consult episodes.
It's outsourced episode to some 3rd world shitter where they pay beans for money
They are so incompetent, they gave Garp the fist a sword
because he was switching Momo between his hands in the chapter. Shock waves hurt
I never said he attacked Sanji off guard. Sanji didn't care about King, he was talking to Momo while King was grabbing Sanji's stomach with his beak
And what does sanji turning invisible to grab momo has to do with this?
what?
King doing 0 damage to Sanji makes him look bad
warlord is not based on strength. BB literally just tried to capture someone worth 100mil in order to become a warlord
Buggy became a warlord because he had strong fodder
Law became a warlord because of 100 hearts
Anyway, if wings don't mean strength, what do they mean?
Why are Zoro and Sanji above other crewmemebers?
