Questions & Mysteries if Zoro actually used acoc against Lucci...

zenox

zenox

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then why didnt jimbei show the slightest reaction towards it ?

we know attacks coated in advanced conquerors haki show outbursts of coc too


but then here u have jimbei showing the straighest face u can ever see in the history of fishman kind


i mean conquerors haki is a big deal and if ur new crewmate has it then obv u will have something to say the very least or even show any reaction



but with jimbei ?? there is literally nothing
even a reaction like " i knew roronoa was a supreme king " would have been there

the same jimbei is also shown reacting to mars' conquerors haki the very next chapter


so its not like oda is rushing things here

hmmmm
:memehm:
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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It doesn't matter if Zoro's Swords are covered in Green Smoke or CoC Lightning
That's just Zoro being ready to use either of them
It's like drawing your Weapon

Green Smoke indicates that his Swords are having Access to his Max CoA
And CoC Lightning around them indicates that They have Access to his CoC as well

But it doesn't mean that when He attacks or clash with them, He is necessarily using his Max CoA or CoC, it's just that They are Available
We have "Names" to tell us when either is getting used

When Zoro does apply his Max CoA in his Attack, He calls it "King of Hell Sword-Style"
And when He applies his CoC in his Attack, He call it "Sword Serpent Style"

Leopard Hunt contains neither Zoro's Max CoA nor CoC, the Name indicates it
Only CoC Attack Zoro used so far was his Finisher against King

To Summarize:

Oni Giri against King --- Max CoA - No CoC --- [King of Hell] Attack (King Dodged)
Bird Dance against King --- No Max CoA - No CoC --- Base Attack
103 Mercies against King --- Max CoA - CoC --- [King of Hell] + [Sword-Serpent] Attack
Leopard Hunt against Lucci --- No Max CoA - No CoC --- Base Attack
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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zenox said:
really ?

wont king of hell hint it at being a kingly attack so advanced conquerors being used ?
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If King of Hell meant both Max CoA & CoC, Oda wouldn't need to add Serpent Style Name.
Think of it like Sanji, just because his Eyebrows changed & He activated his Exoskeleton, doesn't mean He is attacking with Ifrit Jambe, but it does mean that He has Access to it, as you can see, He still used Diable Jambe against Queen even though Exoskeleton was Activated.
Same for Zoro, just because it's Green Smoke or CoC, it only indicates his Access to them, not that They are actually being used

Adv. CoC is basically like Hardening, but instead of compressing/focusing your CoA, you're compressing/focusing your CoC
And instead of turning your Body or an Object you're holding into a Weapon, CoC allows you to turn Area surrounding it into a Weapon

Basic CoC can be unleashed like a bubble as seen multiple times or can be unleashed as black lightning as seen with Shanks against Ryokugyu, so when you apply Adv. CoC, you're basically either creating a Bubble-Like Weapon, hence the No-Touching Effect, it's literally same as Gura Gura No Mi or Bubbles used by Pacifista Mark III, and you can also create a Lightning-Like Weapon, which looks like a Snake

So when Zoro actually uses Adv. CoC, He basically creates Weapons made of Pure Haki attached to his Swords
Hence why it's called Sword-Serpent Style, even if you go check that Finisher against King, it's clear that CoC was drawn different then when Fight started, He cut him with CoC Blades

Oda literally makes Zoro say "Foxfire Style" to tell us He is applying Flame Cutting Breath
It's obvious that He would do the same for when Zoro uses his Max CoA or CoC
 
Daves John

Daves John

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I don't know why are people so sure Straw Hats don't have an idea Zoro has CoC.

People were also saying that they don't know Luffy had Gear 5 because Nami claimed they don't know what the form exactly is, but it turned out that Luffy was in the G5 form on Sunny, before coming to Egghead.
 
Thaidakar

Thaidakar

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SkySanji said:
Because Zoro doesn't have top tier CoC, Jinbe only shits himself when strong characters do it like Shanks/Gorosei
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Certainly if sanji had gotten CoC his would be >>> shanks for you right?

Daves John said:
I don't know why are people so sure Straw Hats don't have an idea Zoro has CoC.

People were also saying that they don't know Luffy had Gear 5 because Nami claimed they don't know what the form exactly is, but it turned out that Luffy was in the G5 form on Sunny, before coming to Egghead.
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Out of curiosity, when was that shown?
 
zenox

zenox

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Daves John said:
I don't know why are people so sure Straw Hats don't have an idea Zoro has CoC.

People were also saying that they don't know Luffy had Gear 5 because Nami claimed they don't know what the form exactly is, but it turned out that Luffy was in the G5 form on Sunny, before coming to Egghead.
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the strawhats saw luffy's form when he fought kaido
its completely different

zoro's abilities can remain a complete mystery to them till he shows it
 
Daves John

Daves John

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zenox said:
the strawhats saw luffy's form when he fought kaido
its completely different

zoro's abilities can remain a complete mystery to them till he shows it
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Only Chopper and Nami saw it, and even that was briefly. I'd think bounty poster was more of a confirmation.

Asura is only a single attack, unlike CoC.
I don't disagree that they may not know, but there is no reason to treat it as a fact
 
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