Speculations If Zoro fights an Admiral then so will Sanji
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Opening 17 already made it obvious.
Luffy will fight Akainu to avenge Ace's death, Sanji will fight Kizaru because of how much Kizaru uses his legs to fight, and Zoro will fight Fujitora because both are swordsmen.
The only one that is left out is Green Bull. Perhaps Luffy will defeat Green Bull before fighting Akainu, just like he fought Blueno before fighting Lucci, but I prefer to think that Jinbe will be the one to fight Green Bull.
The only arguments that I think can be used against this is the fact that Kizaru began to use a sword created with light when he got serious in his fight with Rayleigh, so Zoro will have to beat Kizaru in order to be recognized as the best swordsman without leaving the question in the air as to whether or not, even if he's able to beat Mihawk, maybe he wouldn't be able to beat Kizaru. And maybe Fujitora won't appear as an enemy, so with only Akainu, Kizaru, and Greenbull left, it will somehow make sense for Zoro to be the one to fight Kizaru while Sanji fights Greenbull in case Greenbull doesn't use a sword as well.
But I still think it's more likely that Luffy will fight Akainu, Sanji will fight Kizaru, and Zoro will fight Fujitora.
By curiosity, what makes you think that Sanji will fight Greenbull and not Kizaru? And what makes you think that Greenbull is the 2nd strongest admiral? And who are the strongest and the third strongest then?
Luffy will fight Akainu to avenge Ace's death, Sanji will fight Kizaru because of how much Kizaru uses his legs to fight, and Zoro will fight Fujitora because both are swordsmen.
The only one that is left out is Green Bull. Perhaps Luffy will defeat Green Bull before fighting Akainu, just like he fought Blueno before fighting Lucci, but I prefer to think that Jinbe will be the one to fight Green Bull.
The only arguments that I think can be used against this is the fact that Kizaru began to use a sword created with light when he got serious in his fight with Rayleigh, so Zoro will have to beat Kizaru in order to be recognized as the best swordsman without leaving the question in the air as to whether or not, even if he's able to beat Mihawk, maybe he wouldn't be able to beat Kizaru. And maybe Fujitora won't appear as an enemy, so with only Akainu, Kizaru, and Greenbull left, it will somehow make sense for Zoro to be the one to fight Kizaru while Sanji fights Greenbull in case Greenbull doesn't use a sword as well.
But I still think it's more likely that Luffy will fight Akainu, Sanji will fight Kizaru, and Zoro will fight Fujitora.
By curiosity, what makes you think that Sanji will fight Greenbull and not Kizaru? And what makes you think that Greenbull is the 2nd strongest admiral? And who are the strongest and the third strongest then?
???? What the fuck? In three piece?
Mr 1. Was Mr 1, therefore logically you'd think he's stronger...but Mr 2 had both the roles of the Mr 2. And Bon Kurei roles.
Kaku and Jabra were 2200 and 2180 respectively, a difference of 2 fodder marine in strength.
Absalom was Ryuma's commander, but Ryuma was a samurai without any of his skill.
King and Queen have bounties of 1.3 billion and are named...well..King and Queen.
Idk why the same people who argued for Pageone rematch are coming to open their smelling mouths again
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Mr 1. Was Mr 1, therefore logically you'd think he's stronger...but Mr 2 had both the roles of the Mr 2. And Bon Kurei roles.
Kaku and Jabra were 2200 and 2180 respectively, a difference of 2 fodder marine in strength.
Absalom was Ryuma's commander, but Ryuma was a samurai without any of his skill.
King and Queen have bounties of 1.3 billion and are named...well..King and Queen.
Idk why the same people who argued for Pageone rematch are coming to open their smelling mouths again
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You're at the point where you're pretending shit that was made obvious to us... didn't happen?
Mr 1 and Mr 2 were literally put on different levels in impel down. The most threatening part about Bon-chan was his fruit, which was ironically countered by Zoro's idea. Kaku was made stronger with his being a sword user, and even if he wasn't, Oda took to giving us numerical definitions of strength to show us that yes, Zoro's opponent is stronger, not equal, to sanji's opponent. And no, King and Queen weren't given bounties of 1.3 billion, that would imply they were equal; what instead happened was that King, Zoro's opponent, received a higher bounty than Queen, Sanji's opponent. Also you understand that King and Queen are not of equal status in playing cards, right? Meaning the fact that they're respectively named King and Queen only opposes your argument, it doesn't support it.
Mr 1 and Mr 2 were literally put on different levels in impel down. The most threatening part about Bon-chan was his fruit, which was ironically countered by Zoro's idea. Kaku was made stronger with his being a sword user, and even if he wasn't, Oda took to giving us numerical definitions of strength to show us that yes, Zoro's opponent is stronger, not equal, to sanji's opponent. And no, King and Queen weren't given bounties of 1.3 billion, that would imply they were equal; what instead happened was that King, Zoro's opponent, received a higher bounty than Queen, Sanji's opponent. Also you understand that King and Queen are not of equal status in playing cards, right? Meaning the fact that they're respectively named King and Queen only opposes your argument, it doesn't support it.
And Mr. 2 Bon Clay canonically clearly had the upper hand in a 1 on 1 fight with Mr. 1.
Mr. 1 + Miss Doublefinger > Mr. 2 Bon Clay
Mr. 2 Bon Clay > Mr. 1
And Jabura had a carnivorous zoan devil fruit power, besides having had at least 5 years more than Kaku to strengthen the devil fruit power, and none of it was included in the sum of douriki.
Mr. 1 + Miss Doublefinger > Mr. 2 Bon Clay
Mr. 2 Bon Clay > Mr. 1
And Jabura had a carnivorous zoan devil fruit power, besides having had at least 5 years more than Kaku to strengthen the devil fruit power, and none of it was included in the sum of douriki.
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Ehh. Debatable on first part. Skypia Zoro has two 1v1s and Enel fight and end contribution with Viper/Snek. TB Zoro obv had significantly greater role. Dressrosa isn't a contest.
EL and Alabasta they had similar roles. WCI was obv all Sanji, but overall in almost every arc other than that, Zoro has had similar role as Sanji + bunch of additional stuff
EL and Alabasta they had similar roles. WCI was obv all Sanji, but overall in almost every arc other than that, Zoro has had similar role as Sanji + bunch of additional stuff
Yes you could argue Zoro had more with Skypeia and Thriller Bark. But then you could also argue Sanji had more in Alabasta saga, with the Mr Prince stuff and he had a greater role in Drum Island. And the Ennies Lobby saga with the Sea train.
Post Timeskip everything evens out. Id say both Sanji and Zoro get equal amount of shine....Zoro's is more centered in combat, whilst Sanji is more centered in character.
Post Timeskip everything evens out. Id say both Sanji and Zoro get equal amount of shine....Zoro's is more centered in combat, whilst Sanji is more centered in character.
Oda goes back and forth on giving them bonus stuff:
Skypeia both got additional stuff with Zoro vs Ohm and Sanji saving Nami and Usopp
Enies Lobby and water 7 gave sanji additional stuff where he got the entire sea train section.
Thriller bark gave Zoro additional stuff where he got Kuma.
Sabaody gave Sanji additional stuff with Duval
Punk Hazard both got additional stuff
Dressrosa Zoro got more
Then Oda gave an entire arc dedicated to Sanjis backstory and character in WCI
Skypeia both got additional stuff with Zoro vs Ohm and Sanji saving Nami and Usopp
Enies Lobby and water 7 gave sanji additional stuff where he got the entire sea train section.
Thriller bark gave Zoro additional stuff where he got Kuma.
Sabaody gave Sanji additional stuff with Duval
Punk Hazard both got additional stuff
Dressrosa Zoro got more
Then Oda gave an entire arc dedicated to Sanjis backstory and character in WCI
Skypia you can't really argue Sanji had as much spotlight as Zoro at all lol. He got some saving stuff with Usopp and Nami, and a team fight with Satori and that's that for highlights.
Zoro had Ohms, and another fight with Viper's comrade. Zoro had the fight against Enel as one of the 4 "winners" of tournament. He also had same role as Viper during Luffy's climb. And he was just overall far more involved in everything than Sanji.
I left EL/W7 out because it all balances out. Sanji got sea train, meanwhile Zoro got far more spotlight in Water 7 (facing off Kaku/Jyabura), and then had stuff like blasting through Aqua Laguna and defeating T-Bone.
A few arcs they have balanced roles (Alabasta Saga and Enies Lobby), but other than that, Zoro has had more spotlight in pretty much every other saga barring WCI which was dominated by Sanji obviously.
Zoro had Ohms, and another fight with Viper's comrade. Zoro had the fight against Enel as one of the 4 "winners" of tournament. He also had same role as Viper during Luffy's climb. And he was just overall far more involved in everything than Sanji.
I left EL/W7 out because it all balances out. Sanji got sea train, meanwhile Zoro got far more spotlight in Water 7 (facing off Kaku/Jyabura), and then had stuff like blasting through Aqua Laguna and defeating T-Bone.
A few arcs they have balanced roles (Alabasta Saga and Enies Lobby), but other than that, Zoro has had more spotlight in pretty much every other saga barring WCI which was dominated by Sanji obviously.
