Powers & Abilities Ifrit Jambe: How it works and how Sanji's CoA/exoskeleton boosted his level
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Even with the exoskeleton it seems he could have turn up the heat if he just coat his leg in armament but it would only be a certain temperature but with the exoskeleton plus armament he can Reach very high temperatures which makes sense for him getting the exo because that played a big roll but I feel like once the raid suit comes back he would even be able to go further with the temperature of his flames
based on common logical narrative comprehension ? again I'm not saying it wasn't due to pacifista hardness (sanji leg didn't break at all from that concasser against kuma it just rebounded) I'm saying its NOT ONLY DUE TO THAT HARDNESS BUT DJ PLAYS A ROLE TOO
it depends on how you understand DJ .. it allows sanji to do what he isn't capable in his base form using high temperatures to increase the speed and force of his kicks.. against Jabura he didn't require tremendous force or speed behind his kick due to the heat.. he basically burnt through tekkai like it was butter.. so at the end it had no repercussions
But against pacifista he was required to push harder with DJ forcing his legs limitations hence why he said he can't keep this up.. yes this proves your point but it also proves @Yasheen correct coz pushing his leg "extended use" would mess him up even according to sanji himse self saying
"if i keep this up my leg will get messed up"
here also where the Oars thing comes in.. he has to counter and deflect Oars by exerting way more.. hence the grunt..
if he could consistently used in that fight he would have.. he just executed 2 attacks and was done..
it depends on how you understand DJ .. it allows sanji to do what he isn't capable in his base form using high temperatures to increase the speed and force of his kicks.. against Jabura he didn't require tremendous force or speed behind his kick due to the heat.. he basically burnt through tekkai like it was butter.. so at the end it had no repercussions
But against pacifista he was required to push harder with DJ forcing his legs limitations hence why he said he can't keep this up.. yes this proves your point but it also proves @Yasheen correct coz pushing his leg "extended use" would mess him up even according to sanji himse self saying
"if i keep this up my leg will get messed up"
here also where the Oars thing comes in.. he has to counter and deflect Oars by exerting way more.. hence the grunt..
if he could consistently used in that fight he would have.. he just executed 2 attacks and was done..
Using common logical narrative comprehension proves the exact opposite...lmao
Where was it said he had to push ''harder and increase his DJ''? There was no mention of that nor was there a visualisation that would show that. It's literaly just your assumption.
Sanji saying "if i keep this up my leg will get messed up" doesn't prove your point at all - it can be used perfectly for my point. And besides that, my argument is supported by his encounter with Kuma who has the EXACT SAME steel as the Pacifista's and Sanji hurt his Leg kicking him. And in the fight with the Pacifista's Sanji kicked them multiple times - hence he couldn't keep this up anymore, because of his leg not being able to take more of those kicks against that very hard steel.
So what makes more sense?
Sanji struggling with the heat of DJ - with which he NEVER had any problems before and there was no indication of him using hotter flames.
Or my argument of him hurting his Leg because of the hard steel Kuma and the Pacifista's had?
Don't you think it would be a too big of a ''coincidence'' that Sanji never had any problems with DJ, not in EL, not in TB, but only against a material he hurt his leg before - for it to be a DJ after effect?
We would have got information if DJ had any after effect in the Manga if that would be the case. We got to learn the after effects of G2 and G3, don't you think Oda would have said the same for DJ?
Even in the lattest chapter we got to know his ''limitation'' about it, if Sanji would have used hotter flames Pre-TS he would have 100% said so.
Yes exerting himself physicaly???? lol
He stopped fucking Oars Bazooka ofc he would physicaly struggle here and again no indication of hotter flames or anything.
There was no reason to use it afterwards? He used it on Moria, who switched places with his shadow again and then Sanji used it to save Robin. After that he didn't needed it and not because ''he couldn't'' - there was again no indication for that.
Where was it said he had to push ''harder and increase his DJ''? There was no mention of that nor was there a visualisation that would show that. It's literaly just your assumption.
Sanji saying "if i keep this up my leg will get messed up" doesn't prove your point at all - it can be used perfectly for my point. And besides that, my argument is supported by his encounter with Kuma who has the EXACT SAME steel as the Pacifista's and Sanji hurt his Leg kicking him. And in the fight with the Pacifista's Sanji kicked them multiple times - hence he couldn't keep this up anymore, because of his leg not being able to take more of those kicks against that very hard steel.
So what makes more sense?
Sanji struggling with the heat of DJ - with which he NEVER had any problems before and there was no indication of him using hotter flames.
Or my argument of him hurting his Leg because of the hard steel Kuma and the Pacifista's had?
Don't you think it would be a too big of a ''coincidence'' that Sanji never had any problems with DJ, not in EL, not in TB, but only against a material he hurt his leg before - for it to be a DJ after effect?
We would have got information if DJ had any after effect in the Manga if that would be the case. We got to learn the after effects of G2 and G3, don't you think Oda would have said the same for DJ?
Even in the lattest chapter we got to know his ''limitation'' about it, if Sanji would have used hotter flames Pre-TS he would have 100% said so.
Yes exerting himself physicaly???? lol
He stopped fucking Oars Bazooka ofc he would physicaly struggle here and again no indication of hotter flames or anything.
There was no reason to use it afterwards? He used it on Moria, who switched places with his shadow again and then Sanji used it to save Robin. After that he didn't needed it and not because ''he couldn't'' - there was again no indication for that.
i never said it wasn't an assumption.. i never said that you are wrong either OJ just d defending Yasheen's case that he has some truth to what he's saying
it does prove your point but it doesn't dismiss mine as well since whatever i said never disagree with your promise at all
exactly what i meant by the Jabura comparison.. he over exerting his leg with DJ alot.. unlike the Kuma case that was just the rebound he felt.. here hevs cleaving through steel like zoro with no rebound but he can't keep it up coz he's exerting ALOOTT with his leg using DJ since it helps with surpassing his base capabilities
You do and i agree with you genuinely because debut DJ never had flames and thata a fact but now he has flames and they directly affect him.. he can used them with and without DJ too
again out argument isn't flames, i have making posts regarding sanji's nuace in DJ (glowing leg) and just leg on flames... out point was about exertion to a greater degree...
i never meant he couldn't i just meant that his use isn't consistent throughout the fight.. definitely indicated long term exertion against opponents such as or as will mess his leg up..
it does prove your point but it doesn't dismiss mine as well since whatever i said never disagree with your promise at all
exactly what i meant by the Jabura comparison.. he over exerting his leg with DJ alot.. unlike the Kuma case that was just the rebound he felt.. here hevs cleaving through steel like zoro with no rebound but he can't keep it up coz he's exerting ALOOTT with his leg using DJ since it helps with surpassing his base capabilities
You do and i agree with you genuinely because debut DJ never had flames and thata a fact but now he has flames and they directly affect him.. he can used them with and without DJ too
again out argument isn't flames, i have making posts regarding sanji's nuace in DJ (glowing leg) and just leg on flames... out point was about exertion to a greater degree...
i never meant he couldn't i just meant that his use isn't consistent throughout the fight.. definitely indicated long term exertion against opponents such as or as will mess his leg up..
