Character Discussion Im sama: strong or weak–that's the question!? Is Im sama a Kaido type character or Orichi type? The million dollar question!

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#41
Imu is both a Woman & a Man (Not Trans, i'm talking about a Fusion like Cavendish/Hakuba)
Double-Layered Eyes were only the First Hint

Second Hint is in the naming of the Island where Celestial Dragons were & Rocks Attacked, "God's Valley"
In Jaya, when they wanted to resolve something, they offered their Most Beautiful Female to their so-called God

Wouldn't this explain why all Celestial Dragons bothered to leave their comfort in Mary Geoise & travel to that Island?
And why also call it God's Valley, apparently they also offered their Most Beautiful Female to who they worship
(This Offering is also the reason Rocks decided to go there)

Third Hint is in the naming itself
When written in Katakana, "Im" is actually combination of the word "Adam" & "Eve" (Think of it like Adave or Evdam or whatever)
And together they mean Buddha, so the Naming suggests Adam + Eve = God
(There are even Important Trees named like that in OP World, Sunlight Tree Eve & Treasure Tree Adam)

I wouldn't call this Proof, but i think it's good enough food for thought, for now (And Im's Identity is just Tip of the Iceberg)
The solid proof & full details, i will hopefully reveal them in my upcoming Full OP Analysis
Trust me, but OP after Break is gonna be Mind Blowing (At least Story & Reveals wise, can't guarantee the Pacing & Fights)
:bamathink::bamathink::bamathink:Sounds interesting and makes sense.
 
#44
Mostly the strongest character in existence. Someone has to carry the 700 years of dominance and evil and imu fits the bill perfectly.

Defeating someone who holds that weight is satisfying. That being said with oda you never know
 
#48
I say IM is not super strong guy because he didn’t do anything when yonko rampaging around it if this guy feel the pirates are threat to him. Take no action against luffy or even try to kill him.

In fact Doflimingo say when the secret exposed to public, the his power will rot faster.

If IM is worship as god , I think it worst portray of IM as god because God Enel rule sky island as actual god publicly.
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Then monkey d dragon and sabo would face IM first than luffy like wiper face enel .
 
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#49
He's a Spandam.

Remember when Kaido's crew was all menacing and scary for years before they were introduced? And they turned out to be a bunch of clowns.
 
#50
Hi guys, by my decree this thread shell remain as the answer for the ultimate question. Is Im sama a fighter?

For me, it would be quite the disappointment if at the end if it all, the mastermind of the 1000 year long dominance over the world, who defeated JoyBoy, destroyed the ancient Kingdom, rewrote the history, created the most powerful militarily organization is just another Orochi. Plus, how did he achieve all of that before the Marines were even created? That Doesn't make sense to me. What do you guys think?



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Imo he's the haxxest character ever with no equal. Like he creates the most haxxed ability. For example Complete Dominion, control over any living being he chooses regardless of their ability. Doesnt matter whether every Emperors or Admirals work together to kill him, he can control them with his will alone.
 
#53
I still stand with my Imu could be Uranus speculation :

Pluton is probably buried somewhere in Wano

1. Poseidon = Ruler of the Sea in Greek Mythology , and in OP Poseidon lives in the Sea

2. Pluton = Ruler of the Underworld , if Pluton is buried then it can be said it's in the Underworld

3. Uranus = Personification of the Sky , this one is probably in Mariejoa imo . It could even be Imu if Oda implemented the "personification" literally to a person in OP ( there is no other person more fitting to be "Personification of the Sky" than Imu ) .

And with little material we have about Imu - yes it could be true that Imu is Uranus - remember Gorosei already bowed down to Imu - previously they met Shanks and Akainu and didn't give anywhere near that level of respect .

But i'm convinced Uranus is in Mariejoa either way , it's the most sky-like place in OP :

1. It stands thousands meters above the sea level ( so tall that clouds/fogs regularly surround it )
2. It's residents are like the Sky compared to other One Piece people :
- the World's Highest Social Class ( Celestial Dragons )
- the World's Highest Authorities ( Kong & Gorosei )
- the World's Secret Ruler ( Imu )
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Of course though the 2nd step to prove this is needed - for Pluton to be indeed buried somewhere beneath Wano . The first step - Poseidon being in the Sea is already completed .

Previously i used a Pattern Argument like this to say Ryokugyu would come to Wano , and well it worked : https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...yokugyu-at-the-end-of-wano.20636/post-2311122
 
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#56
Hi guys, by my decree this thread shell remain as the answer for the ultimate question. Is Im sama a fighter?

For me, it would be quite the disappointment if at the end if it all, the mastermind of the 1000 year long dominance over the world, who defeated JoyBoy, destroyed the ancient Kingdom, rewrote the history, created the most powerful militarily organization is just another Orochi. Plus, how did he achieve all of that before the Marines were even created? That Doesn't make sense to me. What do you guys think?



@Cinera @TheAncientCenturion @Topi Jerami @Aknolagon @Patryipe @Shanal @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @MarineHQ62 @rerere @Seth @Zowo @Peroroncino @Veku @Geo @sanjikun @Kiiro @Wanji CUCKSMOKE @LANJI CUCKSMOKE @TheKnightOfTheSea @Garps tekkai @Midnight Delight @Van @Ice devil slayer @Monet @Reborn @Cuistot @Fenaker @RayanOO @ShishioIsBack @Orojackson Refugee @Dragomir @Sword God Ryuma @DarkWitch @stormylife @Mr. Anderson @HA001 @Don DaSlayer @Afroking @ZenZu @NotTommy @Zoro D Goat @Yasheen @AdmiralKinyagi @Tripod @Kuro Ashi @ThatMojaveCourier06 @Phoenix @soheilhazrat @Straight From Laughtale @Jailer @ReggieZoldyck21 @Bogard @Gol D. Roger @Dr_Professor83 @bennbeckman @SinOfGreed @Zenos7 @Garp the Fist @Marimo_420 @stairs-kun @ZenZu @worst pirate @Photon @LuffyMazino @Finalbeta @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung @HAJIKATA @Sade @ShinmenTakezo @ShadyOjiro @JazzMazz @Rivaille @comrade @Zoro D Goat @Shiroyru @Cannibal @Nidai_Kitetsu @Daikenki @Gensui Sazid @Ichiro Miyata @Fujishiro @Zara @Yelan
@Queen
@Zoro
@Van
@playa4321
@Celestia
@Grumpy Zoro
@Ice devil slayer
@KiriNigiri
@Veljko2000
@rednose
@Winsmoke Sanji
@Monet
@Veku
@BigChungus2018
@Crooc
@Reborn
@BossYimz
@Robin swan
@gojo
@Fenaker
@PuckTheGreat
@RayanOO
@ShishioIsBack
@Orojackson Refugee
@Greenbeard
@Dragomir
@Sword God Ryuma
@Sentinel
@IceWitch
@Himura
@DarkWitch
@stormylife
@Mr. Anderson
@yunzabit heights
@Monster trio
@Vonal
@Don DaSlayer
@Xione
@Master OF Haki
@Topi Jerami
@Yukihime
@bennbeckman
@Thabeast
@SaintBellkin
@SinOfGreed
@Zenos7
@Lucas
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@pedxi
@Zowo
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@style
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@Mikail
@KINGKONGGUN15
@RyumaZoro
@worst pirate
@ZenZu
@LuffyMazino
@Im_not_Osama_bin_laden
@HAJIKATA
@Jackteo
@Tamerani
@Marimo_420
@Garp the Fist
@Kejon
@Fukki
@Flower
@Sunita
@RZ.119
@Sade
@Skiddo
@KageyamaShoyo
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@Admiral Lee Hung
@Bogard
@Starbound Beast D. Draig
@Shiroyru
@Camie
@ShadyOjiro
@Benn beck
@SethTrollins
@MarimoHeado
@Foxy Bunny
@Bittersteel
@comrade
@Cyrus the Cactus
@OmegaPsyche
@SHIHI
@Zoro D Goat
@critical mindset
@kurwa
@WillOfMyD
@Jo_Ndule
@Reddot4
@Exodia.
@nik87
@Sakura no Hiluluk
@Usopp Haoshoku Haki
@Gambit
@Monkey D Theories
@TheAncientCenturion
@Haoshoku
@Geo
@Yo Tan Wa
@Izaya X
@Gon’s Missing Arm
@Albino 👑
@MasterD
@SmokedOut
@HeroesNZ
@Cinera
@Murilo
@Dark Knight Sanji
@Afroking
@Rosella.Fiamingo
@Chaves
@Rivaille
@Nidai_Kitetsu
@MonsterZoro
@Gol D. Roger
@Soleus
@Aknolagon
@Emperor Nami
@Constantine
@Gensui Sazid
@K!NG HARA$H!MA
@Hanzo hattori
@Buggy D Clown
@silverfire
@yorosenpai
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I think we’re in front of a “Luffy inherited Joyboy kinda situation here” I think that similar to how after 800 years someone from the D clan inherited Joy Boy’s title and will; something similar happened on the flip side. I mean one of the Celestial Dragons will inherit both Imu’s will and name.

I don’t think the Imu we saw in the manga is the same from 800 years ago but someone who inherited his will and world view and that this person only recently inherited the title mirroring Luffy’s attainment of it.

But Imu most likely has another public identity as just one of the celestial dragons and we will be introduced to him as a separate character prior to the reveal
 
#58
Imu probably has the brains to decide the world would be easier controlled if it were split into millions of islands over four oceans.

Imu probably has the power to make that happen.
 
#60
Problem is that Luffy already had a big win over WSC Kaido and he will do so against the 3 devil fruit eater BB. Is Akainu that much of a stronger challenge than Kaido or BB? He isnt. The final boss and ultimate challenge should be a tier above all these guys.
I always thought that the Straw Hats will form an Alliance with the Revolutionary Army to topple the World Government.

So Sabo vs Akainu is a possiblity in my mind.
 
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