General & Others Imagine if Wano was your first arc in One Piece jorney...

#21
Ive been reading one piece since 2008, and Wano is my favourite arc so far, this wolrd building finnally comes to fruition... I love wano... but it could of been better if it focused more on zoro. we all know ZKK but we need some backstory or something
 
#22
Woaw this must be the most ridiculous complaint I ever read. My god! We reach a new low :whitepress:

Wano is the conclusion of the yonko saga which start in PH. Worst, Wano is the most recent arc of a 988+ story. How stupid can you be to expect Wano to work like an introduction arc:goatasure:
 
#24
Woaw this must be the most ridiculous complaint I ever read. My god! We reach a new low :whitepress:

Wano is the conclusion of the yonko saga which start in PH. Worst, Wano is the most recent arc of a 988+ story. How stupid can you be to expect Wano to work like an introduction arc:goatasure:
Marinford is conclusion of Whitebeard war, so facts just keep talking for themselves. Ennies Lobby - conclusion for Water 7, Arabasta- for Arabasta arc. And I don't remember for villain teams turning into idiots ..
 
#26
Marinford is conclusion of Whitebeard war, so facts just keep talking for themselves. Ennies Lobby - conclusion for Water 7, Arabasta- for Arabasta arc. And I don't remember for villain teams turning into idiots ..
Someone who’ll read Marine Ford as a introduction arc will not get what One Piece is. He will just see cool fights and...oh, I get it, you do not care about the story :pepeke:
 
#27
Someone who’ll read Marine Ford as a introduction arc will not get what One Piece is. He will just see cool fights and...oh, I get it, you do not care about the story :pepeke:
What do you mean by "story"? History of the world? Because you know story should be exciting at the very least, while history is not about that. If you read romance, drama, horror or adventure story it has make you read it, because of characters, events etc, because of your enjoyment. You have to feel character, sympathise em, hate em, or love em, some character should feel dangerous threat for heroes, other should be consideres funny etc. If you read post than you should know my point on Wano/WCI trouble. My criticism is not about fighting, but exactly about story itself, case for now we already on 80 chapter of Wano, and this arc lose even to WCI, or at least it's first part. Fact is that to feel enjoyment you should be excited to see fights, while skeeping something that people are excited for and instead of that Oda show fancervice/fodders etc. Problem is that story is bad right now and chapters that called as "world building" are in thousen time much interesting than main story.
 
#28
What do you mean by "story"? History of the world? Because you know story should be exciting at the very least, while history is not about that. If you read romance, drama, horror or adventure story it has make you read it, because of characters, events etc, because of your enjoyment. You have to feel character, sympathise em, hate em, or love em, some character should feel dangerous threat for heroes, other should be consideres funny etc. If you read post than you should know my point on Wano/WCI trouble. My criticism is not about fighting, but exactly about story itself, case for now we already on 80 chapter of Wano, and this arc lose even to WCI, or at least it's first part. Fact is that to feel enjoyment you should be excited to see fights, while skeeping something that people are excited for and instead of that Oda show fancervice/fodders etc. Problem is that story is bad right now and chapters that called as "world building" are in thousen time much interesting than main story.
I disagree the story is good and engaging for me but it is a matter of taste so there is no point arguing this.
 
#33
As title said, just imagine if this arc was your first arc that read or watch in One Piece, would you really enjoy it that much that you will be interested to read 900 chapters?! I'm not talking even about Ennies Lobby, Marinford arcs. As for me, Wano arc easily lose to any pretimeskip arcs, and even post time skip arc seemed much better than this arc.
Litteraly even Thriller Bark was much better than this arc, same thing could be said about Skypia, while TB and Skypia was known as worst arc in pretimeskip One Piece.
And there's reason why that happened in this arc and WCI:
1. Character depelopment and potraying:
This is the most SOS reason why Wano arc is that bad. It seems that author didn't know how to deal with characters and fact that they are much stronger than Luffy. He used the wothless way to hold situation: Oda made everyone dumb, no this is wrong word, to suscribe that....Oda turn everyone into the ultimate fools and idiots. Like any pretimeskip villain is much smarter than Younko Commanders and Younko themselves. Just compare Buggy, Kuro and Don Krigg with Kaido, Big Mom, King, Queen, Katakuri, Cracker and Lady Smoothie. Cmmon even Kaboji and Nyaban brothers are potrayed smarter than those fools. I'm not even talking about other Veterans like Compote who litteraly did nothing. I mean Mr. 3 was smarter than all of them taken together.
But to be honest Oda did this horrible mistake even before timeskip with for example Rob Luchi who just didn't kill Luffy when he was little, jump away to fail, but that happened only once, while now litteraly everyone became idiots, plot became joke and opponent crew turn into the circus itself.
2. Hype used for nothing:
How long we all was teased with great expectations, which didn't turn into anything that could made as feel satisfied. Why that happened, and why there's so much hype used for nothing?!
Well this problem comes from first part, when characters was showed as fools, how you could expect readers to be hyped with em? That bring into live moments that was used just for hype, like BM chasing SH on ship, Cracker with Luffy fight, Jack with Zou and much more. Like imagine if Satori was showef like a fool? In Skypia arc it was clear that Luffy and co was stronger than anyone in Skypia, but Satori who used crazy power mantra made us feel interesting at the very minimum. While in Wano and WCI opponents for real just doing nothing, only fodders here are shine: enraged army, gifters. Why fodders? Because Oda has no problem in writing them....they are weaker than MC and SH, so no reason to turn em into absolute fools.
With that said there's nothing unbeliaveble that World building chapters are always great and much better than any chapter of arc.Why? Because Oda didn't have to change everyone into idiots.
So plot in One Piece for now is good written only in World bulding chaptets, almost every chapter in Wano is trash for me.
Compared to any other arc, I feel that I would be interested to watch One Piece even if Thriller Bark was my first arc, and still I even can's say same about Wano.
What do you feel about Wano arc, and would you be interested to read 900 chapters if Wano arc was your first arc?

P.S.Wano better than Marinford Oda, for real?!
If Wano was my first arc, I will stop reading in like 10 chapters
 
#35
I wouldn’t watch One Piece if that’s my first arc. It’s too crowded, and there’s too much going on, but then also, I could see it being a movie. That’s why, I think One Piece arcs are all like movies and sequels.
 
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