Theory Imu: 800 years of simping
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My headcannon for Imu:
*Defeated Joyboy 800 years ago.
*Is immortal thanks to the ope ope no mi.
*Has crazy base stats as well as top tier rokushiki,swordsmanship and marksmanship.
*Has crazy base haki and all forms of advanced haki(strongest in the verse).
*Owns some form of op ballistic weapon made by Vegapunk.
*Owns a supreme grade weapon which he darkened himself.
*Ate and awakened the water logia fruit.
*Is in charge of some Ancient Weapon.
CP0 might have ordered so to reclaim the shadow DF.Doffy somehow got Ace's fruit.
One Piece has some many details you just forget most of it.
*Defeated Joyboy 800 years ago.
*Is immortal thanks to the ope ope no mi.
*Has crazy base stats as well as top tier rokushiki,swordsmanship and marksmanship.
*Has crazy base haki and all forms of advanced haki(strongest in the verse).
*Owns some form of op ballistic weapon made by Vegapunk.
*Owns a supreme grade weapon which he darkened himself.
*Ate and awakened the water logia fruit.
*Is in charge of some Ancient Weapon.
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CP0 might have ordered so to reclaim the shadow DF.Doffy somehow got Ace's fruit.
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One Piece has some many details you just forget most of it.
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Your comment sounds dumb as hell. If that's the reason he wants to hide the void then oda is a shitty writer. And I know he isn't one so that isn't happening.
And the mythology says a woman looks like his former lover meaning he doesn't actually love vivi, she only would look like his woman
Yeah that is stupid. Imu is definitely 800 years old. The idea of it being a recent celestial is stupid. Imu isn't a public figure precisely because they have lived so long. They make the celestials who live throughout the centuries the public figures while they operate as the real shadow leader
And the mythology says a woman looks like his former lover meaning he doesn't actually love vivi, she only would look like his woman
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Yeah that is stupid. Imu is definitely 800 years old. The idea of it being a recent celestial is stupid. Imu isn't a public figure precisely because they have lived so long. They make the celestials who live throughout the centuries the public figures while they operate as the real shadow leader
Alpha2late already made a video on YouTube on this. Its been years, so I'm adding more evidence to support it.
In the scene below, Luffy Shirahoshi and Blackbeard's posters are cut and stabbed. But not Vivi's. Instead, Imu holds Vivi's photo and takes it with him. Imu also has.. an empty thought bubble while staring at Vivi's photo. Almost as if he's infatuated or in love with Vivi
Oda loves his forced marriage stories. Nami and Absalom, Lola and Absalom, Sanji and pudding, Lola and Loki.. and Vivi is most likely next. Lots of panels foreshadowing a marriage, like Cobra asking Vivi to get married on their way to Mariejois:
Or this cover page has a cat carrying a banner saying "Bride in training" :
Something to note: Alabasta has many references to Egypt. Other than the setting itself, the poneglyphs resemble the hieroglyphs in Egypt. Infact, Nefertari is a clear reference to Ancient Egypt, as "nefer" was often used in names and it means beauty. (Example: Queen Nefertiti)
A 1932 movie called the The Mummy features Imhotep, an ancient undead Egyptian Priest who had a wife named Renpetneferet. In this movie, Imhotep finds a woman bearing a striking resemblance to his former love (who is long dead). Believing her to be the reincarnation of his former love, he attempts to kill her, with the intention of mummifying her, resurrecting her, and finally making her his immortal bride.
If you can see where this is going, Vivi bears an uncanny resemblance to her mother. In fact, Cobra told Vivi she looked exactly like her. This is Vivi's mother, who had a mysterious death Oda decided not to elaborate on:
I wouldn't be surprised if the Princess of Alabasta from 800 years ago also resembled Vivi, as they are of the same lineage. We also know that 800 years ago, Alabasta was the only Kingdom of the first 20 to reject moving up to Mariejois. If Imu was alive at the time, then that would have been a rejection of Imu by the princess of the time.
Regardless, the concept of reincarnating a loved one is not new to One Piece. Oda was always building up to Imu's plot. Where have we seen something similar before?
Recap: Hogback was a fan of Victoria Cindry, a famous actress, for many years; however, his love for her was unrequited, as she rejected his marriage proposal due to already having a fiance. One day, Cindry died in an accident, leaving Hogback so distraught that he left his profession. Shortly after this, Hogback met Gecko Moria, who promised to help him bring Cindry back to life in return for Hogback's assistance in creating his undead army. After Hogback stole Cindry's corpse, Moria used his powers to implant a shadow into it, thus creating a zombie Cindry.
Coincidentally, during Thriller Bark Arc, there was also a forced wedding theme: Absalom and Nami. After Moria's defeat at the hands of the Strawhats, Kuma arrived in Thriller bark, and the World Government learned of all the events that took place in Thriller Bark. However, despite taking down a Warlord, the incident was erased and covered completely, much like Alabasta (but this time, without a bounty raise either). I believe this was when Imu became fully aware of Moria's devil fruit's potential. And ofcourse, he wanted it for himself and his bride to be, Vivi, who resembles the Princess of Alabasta from 800 years ago.
However, Moria's power was needed for the battle against Whitebeard, and they needed every warlord in attendance for that war. But what happened once the war concluded?
"higher up than that". Gorosei/Imu?
Doflamingo was directly contacted and assigned the task of killing Moria. Why? Because Doflamingo is the only person that simultaneously has the power to kill him and also already knows the secrets of Mariejois. Unfortunately for them, Moria survives and goes missing. Fast forward 2 years. Moria resurfaces at Hachinosu, looking for Absalom. Instead, he finds Blackbeard and his crew. Now we don't know what happens next, but something tells me that Blackbeard, a devil fruit hunter, wouldn't pass up on the opportunity of getting Moria's powerful devil fruit. Poor Imu now has another obstacle: the Blackbeard pirates. Without Moria's fruit, Imu cannot extract Vivi's shadow and use it to revive his former love, the princess of Alabasta from 800 years ago who rejected Imu and stayed in the lower world.
Another intriguing thing was this scene during the Reverie:
The strawhat was a shock, but why does the place look like a tomb? And why is it really cold? Maybe, this is where Imu keeps the body of his former love from 800 years ago
In the scene below, Luffy Shirahoshi and Blackbeard's posters are cut and stabbed. But not Vivi's. Instead, Imu holds Vivi's photo and takes it with him. Imu also has.. an empty thought bubble while staring at Vivi's photo. Almost as if he's infatuated or in love with Vivi
Oda loves his forced marriage stories. Nami and Absalom, Lola and Absalom, Sanji and pudding, Lola and Loki.. and Vivi is most likely next. Lots of panels foreshadowing a marriage, like Cobra asking Vivi to get married on their way to Mariejois:
Or this cover page has a cat carrying a banner saying "Bride in training" :
Something to note: Alabasta has many references to Egypt. Other than the setting itself, the poneglyphs resemble the hieroglyphs in Egypt. Infact, Nefertari is a clear reference to Ancient Egypt, as "nefer" was often used in names and it means beauty. (Example: Queen Nefertiti)
A 1932 movie called the The Mummy features Imhotep, an ancient undead Egyptian Priest who had a wife named Renpetneferet. In this movie, Imhotep finds a woman bearing a striking resemblance to his former love (who is long dead). Believing her to be the reincarnation of his former love, he attempts to kill her, with the intention of mummifying her, resurrecting her, and finally making her his immortal bride.
If you can see where this is going, Vivi bears an uncanny resemblance to her mother. In fact, Cobra told Vivi she looked exactly like her. This is Vivi's mother, who had a mysterious death Oda decided not to elaborate on:
I wouldn't be surprised if the Princess of Alabasta from 800 years ago also resembled Vivi, as they are of the same lineage. We also know that 800 years ago, Alabasta was the only Kingdom of the first 20 to reject moving up to Mariejois. If Imu was alive at the time, then that would have been a rejection of Imu by the princess of the time.
Regardless, the concept of reincarnating a loved one is not new to One Piece. Oda was always building up to Imu's plot. Where have we seen something similar before?
Recap: Hogback was a fan of Victoria Cindry, a famous actress, for many years; however, his love for her was unrequited, as she rejected his marriage proposal due to already having a fiance. One day, Cindry died in an accident, leaving Hogback so distraught that he left his profession. Shortly after this, Hogback met Gecko Moria, who promised to help him bring Cindry back to life in return for Hogback's assistance in creating his undead army. After Hogback stole Cindry's corpse, Moria used his powers to implant a shadow into it, thus creating a zombie Cindry.
Coincidentally, during Thriller Bark Arc, there was also a forced wedding theme: Absalom and Nami. After Moria's defeat at the hands of the Strawhats, Kuma arrived in Thriller bark, and the World Government learned of all the events that took place in Thriller Bark. However, despite taking down a Warlord, the incident was erased and covered completely, much like Alabasta (but this time, without a bounty raise either). I believe this was when Imu became fully aware of Moria's devil fruit's potential. And ofcourse, he wanted it for himself and his bride to be, Vivi, who resembles the Princess of Alabasta from 800 years ago.
However, Moria's power was needed for the battle against Whitebeard, and they needed every warlord in attendance for that war. But what happened once the war concluded?
"higher up than that". Gorosei/Imu?
Doflamingo was directly contacted and assigned the task of killing Moria. Why? Because Doflamingo is the only person that simultaneously has the power to kill him and also already knows the secrets of Mariejois. Unfortunately for them, Moria survives and goes missing. Fast forward 2 years. Moria resurfaces at Hachinosu, looking for Absalom. Instead, he finds Blackbeard and his crew. Now we don't know what happens next, but something tells me that Blackbeard, a devil fruit hunter, wouldn't pass up on the opportunity of getting Moria's powerful devil fruit. Poor Imu now has another obstacle: the Blackbeard pirates. Without Moria's fruit, Imu cannot extract Vivi's shadow and use it to revive his former love, the princess of Alabasta from 800 years ago who rejected Imu and stayed in the lower world.
Another intriguing thing was this scene during the Reverie:
The strawhat was a shock, but why does the place look like a tomb? And why is it really cold? Maybe, this is where Imu keeps the body of his former love from 800 years ago
