Character Discussion Imu is clearly the Final Villain
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@Mr. Reloaded already pointed it out, yeah obviously they dont trust him but it gonna be negotiation
I will say you make a fair point tho, given imu is already weary of blackbeard, would he give him even that benefit tho...hmm
I will say you make a fair point tho, given imu is already weary of blackbeard, would he give him even that benefit tho...hmm
Right i mentioned that myself thats why im not sure if that would even work, but i know where @Mr. Reloaded
Also this can still be teachs plan, is teach even aware that Imu clocked on him?
Also this can still be teachs plan, is teach even aware that Imu clocked on him?
I'm nto fond of it, but I don't think @Elder Lee Hung theory of the WG actually protecting the world from some kind of abomination that would end up being the FV is impossible. Actually a pretty typical twist (the big bad was protecting the world from an even bigger evil)
I don't see the thematic split as two, but four in One Piece.
- Good Marines/WG (order, saving people) = Represented by Sengoku, Tsuru, Garp
- Bad Marines/WG (power and kill anyone who disagrees) = CDs/Akainu
- Good Pirates (Freedom seeking sailors) = Luffy/Shanks
- Bad Pirates (Freedom that descends into anarchy) = Blackbeard/Davy Jones
Since this is a pirate manga, I don't think the ultimate thematic battle will be control vs. freedom as presented by Imu, but about different kinds of freedom.
Do you want the individualistic freedom to explore, wander, etc. like Luffy, or the freedom where there is no morality, no accountability, and everything descends into chaos. People can murder with no consequences. Just the strongest, or cunningest, survive. That's what Blackbeard represents.
I think Imu's backstory became clear. He wanted to stop the "bad freedom" brought on by the Davy family. The complete chaos that leads to anarchy and destruction. But I think ultimately he will fail, and it will be the "good freedom" that defeats, not control. That's why I think Luffy vs. BB will be the end.
- Good Marines/WG (order, saving people) = Represented by Sengoku, Tsuru, Garp
- Bad Marines/WG (power and kill anyone who disagrees) = CDs/Akainu
- Good Pirates (Freedom seeking sailors) = Luffy/Shanks
- Bad Pirates (Freedom that descends into anarchy) = Blackbeard/Davy Jones
Since this is a pirate manga, I don't think the ultimate thematic battle will be control vs. freedom as presented by Imu, but about different kinds of freedom.
Do you want the individualistic freedom to explore, wander, etc. like Luffy, or the freedom where there is no morality, no accountability, and everything descends into chaos. People can murder with no consequences. Just the strongest, or cunningest, survive. That's what Blackbeard represents.
I think Imu's backstory became clear. He wanted to stop the "bad freedom" brought on by the Davy family. The complete chaos that leads to anarchy and destruction. But I think ultimately he will fail, and it will be the "good freedom" that defeats, not control. That's why I think Luffy vs. BB will be the end.
We're seeing Imu showcase his Devil's Fruit powers before even getting the reveal of Laffitte's DF name lol.
Oda shows in 1121 that Imu is just one more player in the chase for One Piece that is going to happen (and not even a major player going by panel distribution) but yeah, surely he's gonna be saved for last. Teach surely will be defeated before Lodestar or something.
Guess some people do read the manga upside down.
Oda shows in 1121 that Imu is just one more player in the chase for One Piece that is going to happen (and not even a major player going by panel distribution) but yeah, surely he's gonna be saved for last. Teach surely will be defeated before Lodestar or something.
Guess some people do read the manga upside down.
I still support Teach, but tbh, I think anyone saying there will be someone more ancient than Imu because the mural or whatever is really reaching. What would be better than the King of the world for 8 centuries, with 5 top tiers as slaves, who is now established at fault for both Harald and Xebecs death, directly?
And it's pretty obvious the Tennrybuto are the most evil people in the series, not the "earth god" or whatever, lol
And it's pretty obvious the Tennrybuto are the most evil people in the series, not the "earth god" or whatever, lol
One thing about Imu and Teach I should note is, Imu is a reactionary villain and Teach is a proactionary villain. When Luffy set out from Foosha, Imu won 800 years ago and is comfortably the World King where Teach was still a no-name member of Whitebeard's crew.
However, now we're at a point where Imu's iron grip on the world is starting to slip. The fact he had to personally intervene in Elbaf is a sign things aren't going so well. Much less the Holy Land being starved and nations revolting against the World Government.
But Teach? Well, Rocky Port got messed up a bit and Koby and Moria escaped, but hey, now he has a even more valuable prisoner in Garp. And Caribou is about to tell him about two Ancient Weapons.
So where things are finally start to go bad for Imu, Teach is still doing rather fine, no?
However, now we're at a point where Imu's iron grip on the world is starting to slip. The fact he had to personally intervene in Elbaf is a sign things aren't going so well. Much less the Holy Land being starved and nations revolting against the World Government.
But Teach? Well, Rocky Port got messed up a bit and Koby and Moria escaped, but hey, now he has a even more valuable prisoner in Garp. And Caribou is about to tell him about two Ancient Weapons.
So where things are finally start to go bad for Imu, Teach is still doing rather fine, no?
Some primordial force or unthinking evil just bent on destruction literally has nothing to do with the themes of the story. Even though I don’t think BB is the FV, he would fit with the theme of story’s, albeit not as well as Imu. Inherited Will of Davy Jones vs Joyboy, 2 opposing dreams, two of the new generation battling to shape the new world, etc. Never has something like what you’re suggesting been the main villain of an arc so how could this be the big bad of the series.