Theory Imu is clone of ancient ruler; Second Nami arc; Nami is clone;

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Time for crazy theories.

Many of us have noted that Imu is most likely a woman, although she may be a young boy, however, her passion for gardens and a far from rational nature may indicate that Imu is a woman.

However, the question is why Imu has been inactive for a thousand years, and now he has started the purge again? Why didn't this purge start under Roger?

Because Imu was created quite recently, around the time when One Piece was found. Empty Throne has actually been empty for a thousand years. How is this possible, you ask? The answer in MADS was that it was an organization that was given an unusual task. The World Government as Gorosey received the key to the revival of their former master Imu, who was destroyed by Joy Boy a thousand years ago.

Why I belive that Imu was inactive for thousend years? Because Gorosei build real order, real goverment that was able to rule the world with politic power, not with raw power to destroy everything. This is why things like Reverie exist.

So I believe that MADS created a clone of Imu, Gorosei former master, who now became Imu. How the clone acquired the power of the former Imu is not clear, but there is room for crack theories here. What if Imu wasn't the only clone created that day by MADS.

Wano was second character arc of Zoro that cleared some info about his backstory. WCI was Sanji's arc. However, there is a character whose second arc is impossible due to objective reasons - character was a little child at the very begining of the story. And this character is Nami.

All we know about her is that Belmer for some reason hide her existence from the World Government - that's why Nami's name was missing from the Kokoyashi census. Why was Belmer hiding Nami? Many believed that Nami was Big Mom's daughter, but it is now clear that this is not the case. However, Nami is an unusual character. So far, all of her scenes like this have looked like a joke when she hits Luffy and even Zoro. But in chapter 1058, you can see that there is a certain much bigger thing then just gag. Also Zeus and homies obeyed Nami without any adequate reasons.

I will not go far and assume that Nami is one of the Imu clones, which was recognized as a failure and should have been destroyed, however, someone decided to steal the clone and hide it in East Blue. This is the only way how Nami can get second src.

How will this affect the plot? I'm not talking about Nami gaining Imu's power, she's still a failure. But in terms of the plot, it can play a key role. Maybe she will be able to use Imu's ancient weapon Uranus.

Regarding why Nami is special:

1. She adapted very quickly to Skypiea, and there was a certain kinship between her and Enel;

2. She can predict the weather by some sense, which many think is the will of observation;

3. She survived a headbutt or two from Ulti, and let's say this girl, having no haki, was able to survive. She never received such damage, which hints that the girl is a superhuman;
 
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Imu will be in Kuma's flashback somehow... But we will not be able to see it's face.

Imo, Kuma was crucial for Imu in the past and is ruling in the shadows thanks to him (Kuma was forced obviously).
Imu rules WG not just small kingdom, but there is possibility that Kuma's kingdom became one of the first victims of Imu who was ressurected from dead by cloning.
 
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Nah let's not go into clones theory now.
In fact I have this theory from chapter where clones was showed in Jerma's lab, but only now decided to share it here.
Imu is 100% just a clone. But main question is there a possibility to put ancient soul into new body by cloning.
Nami surviving ultis headbutt makes no sense if she is just a normal human since ultis haki could overpower even post udon luffy
Exactly. She never took damage like this, but now she did and was able to move after that. If she is another Imu's clone this could explane a lot of things and even gags about her.
Plus this is another way to Oda to play arount Nami's clones that he drew a lot.
This is what I was saying, but no clones
Ok, thing that happened with Kuma...was that happened more then 20 years ago?
Imagine Imu as the kid that decide what world should do with Gorosei. Imu is their king, but he/she acts riddiculesly. Gorosei from other hand seems like true wise leaders of the world, not Imu. But they ressurect him and now world going again to the madness that happened 1000 years ago.
 
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In fact I have this theory from chapter where clones was showed in Jerma's lab, but only now decided to share it here.
Imu is 100% just a clone. But main question is there a possibility to put ancient soul into new body by cloning.

Exactly. She never took damage like this, but now she did and was able to move after that. If she is another Imu's clone this could explane a lot of things and even gags about her.
Plus this is another way to Oda to play arount Nami's clones that he drew a lot.

Ok, thing that happened with Kuma...was that happened more then 20 years ago?
Imagine Imu as the kid that decide what world should do with Gorosei. Imu is their king, but he/she acts riddiculesly. Gorosei from other hand seems like true wise leaders of the world, not Imu. But they ressurect him and now world going again to the madness that happened 1000 years ago.
Lmao but why was he dead?
 
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Nami surviving ultis headbutt makes no sense if she is just a normal human since ultis haki could overpower even post udon luffy
She also has abnormal strength including being able to hurt Luffy. I doubt it's just a gag plus she's similar to Garp in that regard. Happiness lunch, first of love.

Shirahoshi recognised her but couldn't explain why, she seemed familiar to her.

I doubt all the princesses looking like Nami is just Oda being lazy or biased towards Nami or whatever too.
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Nami surviving ultis headbutt makes no sense if she is just a normal human since ultis haki could overpower even post udon luffy
She also has abnormal strength including being able to hurt Luffy. I doubt it's just a gag plus she's similar to Garp in that regard. Happiness lunch, first of love.

Shirahoshi recognised her but couldn't explain why, she seemed familiar to her.

I doubt all the princesses looking like Nami is just Oda being lazy or biased towards Nami or whatever too.
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She also has abnormal strength including being able to hurt Luffy. I doubt it's just a gag plus she's similar to Garp in that regard. Happiness lunch, first of love.

Shirahoshi recognised her but couldn't explain why, she seemed familiar to her.

I doubt all the princesses looking like Nami is just Oda being lazy or biased towards Nami or whatever too.
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She also has abnormal strength including being able to hurt Luffy. I doubt it's just a gag plus she's similar to Garp in that regard. Happiness lunch, first of love.

Shirahoshi recognised her but couldn't explain why, she seemed familiar to her.

I doubt all the princesses looking like Nami is just Oda being lazy or biased towards Nami or whatever too.
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I hope you’re not implying that characters like Shirahoshi and Rebecca are clones, because they’re obviously not. We saw all of the princesses as children at one point in time. Rebecca’s birth and Shirahoshi‘s childhood are good examples.

Oda just has a very specific way of drawing female characters in the series. Not all of them look identical, but a lot of them do.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this clone stuff is limited only to the members of Rocks. There’s no reason for anyone else to be cloned, because what could they possibly offer in their adulthood?

I seriously doubt any of the Straw Hats are clones. They’ve given no indication of being abnormal besides gag moments where Nami injures Luffy.

Besides, them being clones would ruin their entire character structure and how we’ve perceived them thus far. “They were only able to accomplish X and Y because they’re special!” is the argument I can hear in my mind.

Not everyone on the crew needs to be special or have some sort of one in a billion characteristic, like being a skeleton or a talking animal.

I like the idea of them just being normal humans who developed skills that can put them at an advantage over other people. Zoro just developed really good sword skills, Usopp… well, can shoot things and stuff… and Nami learned how to use her Clima Takt.

I think we’re all just overthinking this cloning thing, and it really shows with theories like these.
 
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Nami is clone of Imu or at least they’re very similar

Zoro calls her an Evil Witch. Oda has repeatedly said multiple times that she would be able to take over the world and rule it if she could.

Something happened in Ancient Past which led to failed Imu unlike how Nami was saved and shown the way forward in East Blue
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I don't think Imu is a clone, but I also think that Nami is the one who will control Uranus, since Nami = Aphrodite in Greek mythology which is Uranus's daughter, but we still need more evidences to prove that Nami is the one who will control Uranus
 
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I don't think Imu is a clone, but I also think that Nami is the one who will control Uranus, since Nami = Aphrodite in Greek mythology which is Uranus's daughter, but we still need more evidences to prove that Nami is the one who will control Uranus
I mean cloning could be the way how you revive dead people. Imu was inactife for thousend years, why?

So why not a clone?
 
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I mean cloning could be the way how you revive dead people. Imu was inactife for thousend years, why?

So why not a clone?
how did u know she wasn't active? just because she didn't go after Roger, then why didn't the Gorosei go after Roger, they have the same goal as Imu. why doesn't Imu go after Dragon even though his location is known to WG?
the cleansing was happening from time to time according to Gorosei.
according to Revolutionary army, some kingdoms had disappeared in the past, and most importantly who was ruling the WG in the past centuries if the real Imu is dead?
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besides just imagine the likes of Queen, judge, & Caesar knowing the truth about Imu, that doesn't make any sense at all
 
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I hope you’re not implying that characters like Shirahoshi and Rebecca are clones, because they’re obviously not. We saw all of the princesses as children at one point in time. Rebecca’s birth and Shirahoshi‘s childhood are good examples.

Oda just has a very specific way of drawing female characters in the series. Not all of them look identical, but a lot of them do.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this clone stuff is limited only to the members of Rocks. There’s no reason for anyone else to be cloned, because what could they possibly offer in their adulthood?

I seriously doubt any of the Straw Hats are clones. They’ve given no indication of being abnormal besides gag moments where Nami injures Luffy.

Besides, them being clones would ruin their entire character structure and how we’ve perceived them thus far. “They were only able to accomplish X and Y because they’re special!” is the argument I can hear in my mind.

Not everyone on the crew needs to be special or have some sort of one in a billion characteristic, like being a skeleton or a talking animal.

I like the idea of them just being normal humans who developed skills that can put them at an advantage over other people. Zoro just developed really good sword skills, Usopp… well, can shoot things and stuff… and Nami learned how to use her Clima Takt.

I think we’re all just overthinking this cloning thing, and it really shows with theories like these.
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Least defensive and condescending one piece fan right here too.

I'm well aware of Shirahoshi and Rebecca too but thank you for that reminder.
God forbid I try to think outside of the box and not have a stick up my ass instead.

Fans like you are so meticulous about details and calling out others mistakes and having that sense of superiority.

Of course the Luffy stan doesn't want anybody else to be special too. But hey, at least they're not relying on god fruits, the most unbelievable and extreme plot armour and having greater feats of being worshipped by others than even Naruto and his talk no jutsu accomplished.

Funny how a series like One Piece can have such ironically narrow minded fans too.

I didn't specify they were clones either. So thanks for that assumption. The clones thing is more of a joke, something you're not very familiar with apparently.

You can excuse it how you want but the princesses looking like Nami and knowing so little about Nami can't be coincidence. I've been ridiculed for theories that came true later on and suddenly the ridiculers claimed they supported the theory all song, yeah fucking right!

It could be coincidence the princesses look like Nami but for fucks sake, how many times must something reoccur for it to being a fucking coincidence?

You can chalk it up to Odas art style and or he does it because it reminds him of his wife, a Nami cosplayer BUT I'm not so narrow minded to assume its that simple either.

Oda continually fools us, does unexpected things, pulls big twists and even retcons so whilst you might act all high and mighty, you might fall hard like some of us did already too.

If I'm wrong about the princesses resembling Nami not being more than coincidence, then so be it. I'll take the fall.

But thank you for the condescending rant/take down, appreciate it!
 
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