Le Fishe Thread In 4K Color - AdCoC Lightning versus CoA Lightning!..

[Rootbeer]

Luffy directly says and shows he is using CoC multiple times and it’s not yellow

are you saying Luffy has TWO different coc haki colors?

Most of the time CoC is invisible, Black Red Lightning is CoA.. That's why i've been saying the only time we can visually see CoC Lightning is when Luffy Coat his Black Red lightning with CoC and it becomes Red Lightning..

So as i said, the yellow lightning could be visual AdCoC lightning separated entirely from his CoA Lightning or a sort burst Nika CoA Lightning..

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Black Red Lightning is CoA

This was already disproven by Oden scarring Kaido

so no, the rest of your point is automatically wrong

find another explanation for what that yellow lightning is

 

[centurion]

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@Rootbeer

 

[Rootbeer]

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@Rootbeer

Mostly disagree.. Full Body CoA Barrier hasn't shown to be a thing.. It would require a lot more Haki than Full Body hardening..

 

[centurion]

Mostly disagree.. Full Body CoA Barrier hasn't shown to be a thing.. It would require a lot more Haki than Full Body hardening..

But full body CoC barrier is a thing and requires less Haki than CoA ??

 

[Rootbeer]

But full body CoC barrier is a thing and requires less Haki than CoA ??

Show evidence of it then.. CoC isn't related to stamina, as long as you're not dead, you can probably use CoC and AdCoC..

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

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@Rootbeer

But haki isn’t invisible? Mihawk specifically says Zoro needs to turn his blade black in order to drink again

 

[Blax Blah]

The panel looks like a Super Mario Galaxy level

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

But haki isn’t invisible? Mihawk specifically says Zoro needs to turn his blade black in order to drink again

by infusing it with armament to harden it. you can use armament haki without using hardening/infusion. this happens constantly post timeskip. when Pekoms punched Caribou and explained logias who don't have haki are fucking up, he used invisible haki.

its a lot more simple than people want to admit.

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But haki isn’t invisible? Mihawk specifically says Zoro needs to turn his blade black in order to drink again

the fanbase's illiteracy and their obsession with youtubers makes them think "Armament Haki" and "Hardening" are the same thing even though the manga constantly disagrees.

these are 4 pages in a row in the same chapter. Luffy hits Caesar with haki, no coating. It hurts him, it draws blood. "That HURT!" he literally says out loud.

next page, luffy uses "armament hardening" and his hands physically turn black. Caesar looks at his hands turn black and goes oh shit! his eyes bugging out and everything. It's clearly a separate move.

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@Rootbeer

i wish the fanbase would learn how haki worked. its really not that hard to understand.

the invisible haki is a separate, less advanced technique than hardening. it doesn't mean it's weaker, it just means it's less advanced. hardening "physically hardens" the thing that hardening is used on.

the entire Gear 4 fight with Doffy is literally about separating Hardening and normal Armament Haki. Luffy clearly uses haki before this moment, A LOT, without black coating. His rubber never changes properties until he uses gear 4 which is almost full-body hardening. There is dialogue specifically about how the Hardening affects his rubber and makes it behave differently. If Hardening were just "invisible" and "for the readers" this fight scene would not exist. Luffy's rubber would always act the same no matter what haki is applied.

I am begging the fanbase to learn how to read. It's literally a children's manga it shouldn't be this difficult.