General & Others In a Crew v. Crew battle the Big Mom Pirates beat the Strawhats

DonWick

DonWick

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Let’s think about this:
Luffy beats Big Mom for sure.

Zoro is the only chance they have against Katakuri and I’m not sure he wins that fight.

Jinbei has to fight Smoothie because of Sanji’s gag and I think Smoothie wins.

Sanji has to fight Cracker which won’t be an easy fight but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. But don’t try to tell me he beats Katakuri because he doesn’t have the feats.

Franky vs Snack is a toss up.

The rest of the crew is weak and Big Mom still has like 1000 competent fighters. The straw hats lose.
 
Cruxroux

Cruxroux

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DonWick said:
Luffy beats Big Mom for sure.
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He doesn't.

DonWick said:
Zoro is the only chance they have against Katakuri and I’m not sure he wins that fight
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High diffs , If zoro starts with speed blitzing low diff like Lucci.


DonWick said:
Jinbei has to fight Smoothie because of Sanji’s gag and I think Smoothie wins
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Fishmen who controls moisture vs Df user who sucks out moisture.
I don't know the victor but it would actually be a good fight.
Or else she's a swordsman. Zoro can tag her after Fighting Katakuri.

DonWick said:
Sanji has to fight Cracker which won’t be an easy fight but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. But don’t try to tell me he beats Katakuri because he doesn’t have the feats.
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He beats Cracker.


DonWick said:
The rest of the crew is weak and Big Mom still has like 1000 competent fighters. The straw hats lose.
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Why are you avoiding the grandfleet?
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Guymieux said:
Zoros feats and potrayal shits on Kat. How are you not sure he wins ?
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He is sure with Luffy wins. What do you expect?
 
DonWick

DonWick

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Guymieux said:
Zoros feats and potrayal shits on Kat. How are you not sure he wins ?
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Because Zoro hasn’t show a way to get passed Future Sight. But you aren’t going to convince me and I’m not going to convince you. So let’s talk about a crew v. crew fight instead of turning this into a Zoro discussion.

Which crew do you think wins?
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V Runcandel said:
He doesn't.


High diffs , If zoro starts with speed blitzing low diff like Lucci.



Fishmen who controls moisture vs Df user who sucks out moisture.
I don't know the victor but it would actually be a good fight.
Or else she's a swordsman. Zoro can tag her after Fighting Katakuri.


He beats Cracker.



Why are you avoiding the grandfleet?
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He is sure with Luffy wins. What do you expect?
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I’m looking at it from a crew v crew perspective to show how strong Big Moms direct crew really is. She doesn’t need a fleet because of the strength of her crew. If I add the fleet then it’s a good fight.
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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Luffy beats Big Mom
Sanji wrecks Kata
Zoro negs Smoothie then kills Cracker
Franky Jinbe and Robin clean up the main veterans
Brook negs Big Moms Homies
Zoro and Sanji clean up the fodder like Bobbins who’s literally one shot material for them
 
MonsterKaido

MonsterKaido

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Luffy vs BM aside , Zoro and sanji beat Kata/Cracker. Jimbei holds smoothie until Zoro comes and beat her too.

The issue is with BMPs size but luffy also has his grand fleet.

BG aside , I am not sure if Luffy can put BM down.
 
Kung-Fu Dugong

Kung-Fu Dugong

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If Zoro beats King, he surely has a big chance of beating Katakuri... he probably just needs to develop more of his CoO during the battle. Sanji SURELY beats Cracker, as he isn't even the second strongest of BM's crew (Queen is on another level IMO). Jinbe has a good shot against Smoothie too, I don't think that he would lose.

As for the rest of the crew, the numbers would certainly be a problem... not only they have the former Sweet Commander Snack, but they also got a lot of strong veterans (Perospero, Daifuku, Oven, Compote, et al.) who would probably be a good match for the Sweet Commanders themselves. They would probably need the help of the Grand Fleet against those numbers, but I still think they would ultimately win.
 
DonWick

DonWick

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MonsterKaido said:
Luffy vs BM aside , Zoro and sanji beat Kata/Cracker. Jimbei holds smoothie until Zoro comes and beat her too.

The issue is with BMPs size but luffy also has his grand fleet.

BG aside , I am not sure if Luffy can put BM down.
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The grand fleet isn’t part of his direct crew.
 
gz89

gz89

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Current SHs would murder Meme pirates.

No one from Meme's side would be able to push his SH opponent above mid/high diff.

P.s wtf is this Smoothie > Jinbe copium ?
 
DonWick

DonWick

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Kung-Fu Dugong said:
If Zoro beats King, he surely has a big chance of beating Katakuri... he probably just needs to develop more of his CoO during the battle. Sanji SURELY beats Cracker, as he isn't even the second strongest of BM's crew (Queen is on another level IMO). Jinbe has a good shot against Smoothie too, I don't think that he would lose.

As for the rest of the crew, the numbers would certainly be a problem... not only they have the former Sweet Commander Snack, but they also got a lot of strong veterans (Perospero, Daifuku, Oven, Compote, et al.) who would probably be a good match for the Sweet Commanders themselves. They would probably need the help of the Grand Fleet against those numbers, but I still think they would ultimately win.
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They don’t get the grad fleet it’s just crew v crew. Assuming Zoro gets a CoO boost is wild but sure. He would need to either learn FS or the ability to stop Kats FS from working through ACoC which is a stretch.
 
DonWick

DonWick

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gz89 said:
Current SHs would murder Meme pirates.

No one from Meme's side would be able to push his SH opponent above mid/high diff.

P.s wtf is this Smoothie > Jinbe copium ?
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I mean she controls moisture she counter Fishman Karate
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Sir Yasheen said:
Luffy beats Big Mom
Sanji wrecks Kata
Zoro negs Smoothie then kills Cracker
Franky Jinbe and Robin clean up the main veterans
Brook negs Big Moms Homies
Zoro and Sanji clean up the fodder like Bobbins who’s literally one shot material for them
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Sanji isn’t beating a YC1 restructure the matchups. Zoro is there only chance and he likely loses due to being unable to hit Katakuri.
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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DonWick said:
I mean she controls moisture she counter Fishman Karate
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Sanji isn’t beating a YC1 restructure the matchups. Zoro is there only chance and he likely loses due to being unable to hit Katakuri.
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Kata is going to be an easier fight for him than Queen. Kata loses Badly to either one, dudes feats and portrayal are way below Queens and Kings
 
Kung-Fu Dugong

Kung-Fu Dugong

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DonWick said:
They don’t get the grad fleet it’s just crew v crew. Assuming Zoro gets a CoO boost is wild but sure. He would need to either learn FS or the ability to stop Kats FS from working through ACoC which is a stretch.
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Then the weaker SHs would need to be able to hold their own against the BM Pirates until Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe finish their battles. In any case, even if they get defeated, I think that they'll ultimately win. I think it would go as it follows:

Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe win their battles / BM Pirates win their battles against the weaker strawhats
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Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe defeat the remaining BM Pirates / Luffy defeats Big Mom.

The top 3 SHs (Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe) are just much stronger on average.
 
garciajulieen

garciajulieen

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First We all know that the shs are always get power up in almost every battle. So here is my take:
- kat vs Sanji. Mochi is flamable if i dont make mistake. And its gonna trigger Sanji to unlock FS.

-Actually Smoothie vs Robin can be interesting. Like both can turn to giant and Smoothie doesnt have haki feats.

-Craker vs Jimbei, you know biscuit weakness is water.

- Franky vs Snack

- Luffy and Zoro vs bigmom because why not?

The rests of the shs + grand fleet vs perospero and the rests of the bmp. Or just stalling them until one of the big damage dealer is done with their fight and still have some energy.
 
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