Speculations Interesting dialogue regarding S-hawk and Mihawk in chapter 1073

[HellBlazer04]

While reading chapter 1073 I caught this interesting dialogue regarding S-Hawk.
However there are two different translations and both have different meanings

OP Scans:

TCBScans:

The translation from OP scans basically implies that S-hawk has small traces humanity proven by the fact that s-hawk was shocked/surprised (completely diff demeanor from 1st appearance) when Zoro jumped in to block his attack. This has been an idea since the arc started that the more experience the seraphim gain the more emotions they will develop. We saw the difference in behavior of the seraphim from their first introduction till now and its clear the they're not as cold-hearted as they first seemed.


But TCB scans translation makes the dialogue seem more about Mihawk than S-hawk. Zoro notes that s-hawk is not the same as Mihawk and that S-hawk actually still has humanity. The way this dialogue is phrased its obvious that Zoro is making a direct comparison to Mihawk, but why would he imply that Mihawk has less humanity when Mihawk has been nothing but generous to him.
Is it about the strength difference, meaning that Mihawk is so strong that he would be considered inhuman even more so than a cyborg?
Or just about emotions, meaning Mihawk has complete control over his emotions when it comes to fighting?

What are your thoughts on this?
Also can any Japanese speaker confirm what the actual raws said?

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[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Zoro was comparing S-Hawk to Mihawk in the context imo. Saying you have a spark of humanity emphasizes that Mihawk is more monstrous than S-Hawk, whether it's strength or training hardships or something else....

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

 

[Just a member]

I read the 2nd which for sure is more interesting as it rises, underlines, the question about Mihawk and his supposed lack of feelings. Actually it could even be Oda true purpose since Mihawk is basically emotionless in his whole panel time bar when he faced the last attack of Zoro at the Baratie (but that was basically retconed), shock when Zoro told him about the baboons and laughter when Zoro asked to be his disciple. Yet this chibihawk maybe has already shown more emotions.

The 1st translation is less interesting but probably the truest translation. It denies the talk about Mihawk but emphasizes how the chibibukai still have humanity, and they are also child, probably to hint they will later be rescued somewhat from their mindless puppets state.

 

[NikaInParis]

I take TCB's version to refer to Mihawk in combat - while S Hawk showed some emotion in the brief clash with Zoro, Mihawk (most probably) leaves all emotion out of the battle and is just 100% dialed in

 

[Marimo_420]

Mihawk is more stoic than an actual Robot

 

[Enma]

I thought he compares them to Pacifistas. They have PX on their clothes.
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So that's why he was sweating

 

[zenox]

I don’t think he is talking abt mihawk not having any humanity cause that doesn’t make sense at all , s-hawk is literally developed from mihawk
So mihawk’s genes are the only spark of humanity s-hawk has
+ by looking at mihawk’s character , there is a lot of humanity in him .

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

That would be a correct observation
by humanity I suppose s-hawk lacks the same ruthlessness in a serious battle

 

[HellBlazer04]

I thought he compares them to Pacifistas. They have PX on their clothes.

Nah I don't think he was comparing them to Pacifistas. A few panels earlier both zoro and brook note that the seraphim look somewhat familiar so the obvious conclusion is that he is comparing them to OG warlords.

I don’t think he is talking abt mihawk not having any humanity cause that doesn’t make sense at all , s-hawk is literally developed from mihawk
So mihawk’s genes are the only spark of humanity s-hawk has
+ by looking at mihawk’s character , there is a lot of humanity in him .

You're right, we have seen various instances of Mihawk showing different emotions.
But its just that TCB translation is a bit weird and gives a completely different meaning on the humanity comment. I was thinking that zoro compared their strengths and noted that Mihawk is inhuman and has abnormal strength even when compared to a cyborg.
I'm waiting to see how the Viz translates this.

 

[Shasha23]

I dont get how you guys got it soo wrong.

The seraphim are cyborgs and should not have a trace of being human, but when Zoro clashed with S-Hawk and he reacted in a humane way to which Zoro was surprised that even though they are robots they still have a trace of having a soul since S-Hawk showed signs of fear, this all leads back to the sea monsters under Vega 2 at the start, they were cyborgs but they still had traces of their wild instincts, this is a form of foreshadowing by Oda, probably the seraphim will become free of control since they have souls

 

[Enma]

I dont get how you guys got it soo wrong.

The seraphim are cyborgs and should not have a trace of being human, but when Zoro clashed with S-Hawk and he reacted in a humane way to which Zoro was surprised that even though they are robots they still have a trace of having a soul since S-Hawk showed signs of fear, this all leads back to the sea monsters under Vega 2 at the start, they were cyborgs but they still had traces of their wild instincts, this is a form of foreshadowing by Oda, probably the seraphim will become free of control since they have souls

That would be correct, if not for "you're not the same" comment. So it's either;
1. He compares him to Pacifistas;
2. He compares him to Mihawk.

 

[HellBlazer04]

I dont get how you guys got it soo wrong.

The seraphim are cyborgs and should not have a trace of being human, but when Zoro clashed with S-Hawk and he reacted in a humane way to which Zoro was surprised that even though they are robots they still have a trace of having a soul since S-Hawk showed signs of fear, this all leads back to the sea monsters under Vega 2 at the start, they were cyborgs but they still had traces of their wild instincts, this is a form of foreshadowing by Oda, probably the seraphim will become free of control since they have souls

I get that and I've already addressed this in my post. The concept of seraphim developing emotions and free will sometime in the future is already established since the beginning of the arc.
I'm just confused because TCB translation gives somewhat different meaning. I do think that the opscan translation seems a little more accurate in this situation.

 

[Erkan12]

I dont get how you guys got it soo wrong.

The seraphim are cyborgs and should not have a trace of being human, but when Zoro clashed with S-Hawk and he reacted in a humane way to which Zoro was surprised that even though they are robots they still have a trace of having a soul since S-Hawk showed signs of fear, this all leads back to the sea monsters under Vega 2 at the start, they were cyborgs but they still had traces of their wild instincts, this is a form of foreshadowing by Oda, probably the seraphim will become free of control since they have souls

Wrong. S-Snake was sweating just because Jinbe thanked her.

They clearly have emotions. Previously the ZKKboys who said S-Hawk is a robot and shouldn't show any emotions simply can't read the manga.

S-Hawk either sweat a little bit because:

1- Someone appeared out of no where and stopped him before he could accomplish his mission to take out Vegapunk before they order them to stop, that surprised him.

2- Or because Zolo talked about S-Hawk's humanity that made S-Hawk emotional similar to S-Snake.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Mihawk's too inhuman for his own good.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I hope it’s about a spark of humanity/personality in S Hawk rather than a commentary on Mihawk

 

[Cruxroux]

Lmao Is this just foreshadowing of amount of blood Bath we get once we see mihawk in action.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

The 🤡 that said it was a fact that S-Hawk is stronger than Mihawk and invented mountain level feats for Neckbeard accusing someone of not reading.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

I thought he compares them to Pacifistas. They have PX on their clothes.
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So that's why he was sweating

This what my interpretation.

Zoro is used to fighting Pacifistas, and knows them as cold, mindless robots. Zoro can tell that S-Hawk is different from that.

Doesn't make sense, either, since Mihawk has been shown to have subtle emotion (like when he smiled the first time he met Zoro after Zoro refused to run away from the fight).