Break Week Interesting thread i saw on reddit: would you still watch one piece if zoro was a woman? Would it work? What would change in the show?
I was talking about people's perception and why some of them would even go far as to claim it'd be better character if zoro was a female, it doesn help but beg the quesiton like one what premise is someone who's supposed to be the epitome of manhood and most of his traits if not all will be a better or even comparable charcter if he was a female.. What ideas entertain such possibilities.
I'm not here to say that people shouldn't hold and opinion but I will say that their opinion stems from unnatural biases.
As for how we think, i reckon anything created by us derives its roots from common beliefs but in some cases in parts of the world common beliefs are liberalized
Like no one every talks about female charcter's being male but you'd see many here entertain the contrary.
If zoro was a female charcter from the get go and i fell in love with the way oda characterised his female counter part which i doubt is gonna be remotely similar to his male counterpart it is what it is SHE ZORI WILL BE SLME OF THE BEST CHARCTERS.
About Pervert... Totally agree there they are are psrt of the reason why female charcters are soo sexualised in the community ehich starts affecting the lense people see them from..
I'm not here to say that people shouldn't hold and opinion but I will say that their opinion stems from unnatural biases.
As for how we think, i reckon anything created by us derives its roots from common beliefs but in some cases in parts of the world common beliefs are liberalized
Like no one every talks about female charcter's being male but you'd see many here entertain the contrary.
If zoro was a female charcter from the get go and i fell in love with the way oda characterised his female counter part which i doubt is gonna be remotely similar to his male counterpart it is what it is SHE ZORI WILL BE SLME OF THE BEST CHARCTERS.
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About Pervert... Totally agree there they are are psrt of the reason why female charcters are soo sexualised in the community ehich starts affecting the lense people see them from..
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I would read it anyways, but how I would feel towards genderbent Zoro?
Depends how Oda would handle the character, and frankly speaking I don't trust him to create a compelling female character based on strength and focused on being WSS. Take a look at Tashigi, it's actually quite sad.
I mean, we have Erza in FT and Olivier Armstrong in FMA,they are less loved than Zoro. Although in Black Lagoon Revy kicks ass and she is quite popular.
Depends how Oda would handle the character, and frankly speaking I don't trust him to create a compelling female character based on strength and focused on being WSS. Take a look at Tashigi, it's actually quite sad.
I mean, we have Erza in FT and Olivier Armstrong in FMA,they are less loved than Zoro. Although in Black Lagoon Revy kicks ass and she is quite popular.
Fma female cast is really good a great example of Tomboys, haven't watched BL but seen edits of Revy..she cool too
Zoro is a cut above the rest , in a domain of his own even among dope male charcter's, his likes are extremely rare in shonen..
The quesiton would be, can oda recreate a ZORI without changing her goals and charcterize her to brilliance like zoro
The answer is maybe but alot aboit her charcter would need to change, unless he wants her to turn into a 2nd yamato
Well he got humbled it is what it is.
Zoro is a cut above the rest , in a domain of his own even among dope male charcter's, his likes are extremely rare in shonen..
The quesiton would be, can oda recreate a ZORI without changing her goals and charcterize her to brilliance like zoro
The answer is maybe but alot aboit her charcter would need to change, unless he wants her to turn into a 2nd yamato
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Well he got humbled it is what it is.
better imo, as long as oda treated "zora" with respect. just because oda writes women a certain way and people might see what women can be through a very limited lens doesnt mean that zora couldnt be EASILY be genderswapped with very few changes to their character, changes that could near-exclusively manifest through reactions to viewed differently by OTHER characters....that being said, i wouldnt mind some changes. i hate when people immediately jump to the thought of "nOoOoO iT wOuLdN't Be ThE sAmE!!!" as if thats just an obviously and undeniably bad thing by default.
it also wouldnt be hard to have sanji mistake zora for being a man, and even after finding out still treating him that way because he knows that zora would feel disrespected otherwise. making an exception here really wouldnt be a big deal. oh n' maybe zora has an insecurity complex about wanting to be like a "warrior" and not a "woman", but eventually gains more confidence and is willing to relax more.
zora never had a problem with being a woman in and of itself, but she thought that it was a sort of "antithesis" to being a warrior, to being a great swordsman, to being the very, very, very strongest. she would come to realize that such thinking is just silly. sanji would still continue to show zora the same level of "respect" as before, because zora would still never want to be treated any differently, but to just let live how she is without constantly worrying about being a woman and feeling the need to overcompensate.
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1 kuina was upset about women being weaker than men, and male zoros goal of becoming the worlds strongest swordsman does nothing to challenge that, plus...swordswoman in one piece do actually suck
2 better female rep in the series. woman arent necessarily poorly written in the series, but there arent that many strong women, women tend to be close to if not the weakest in whatever group they are apart of, and in terms of the top tiers...big mom is basically the only woman I can think of. there arent ANY women that have a "role" like that of roger, rayleigh, scopper, shanks, beckman, whitebeard, sengoku, garp, oden, mihawk or rocks. tsuru and shakky easily could've worked for that to some extent, but instead they are given zero prominence and zero emphasis given to their capabilities, minus tsuru being smart...apparently.
3 i know yamato and kiku exist, but if it was "zora" instead of "zoro", the whole wano sexism thing could have been expanded on further. yamato is an oni with a devil fruit who is the son of kaido, and kiku's strength can easily be handwaved away as her still being biologically male, but "zora"'s strength, might, heroism and prowess cannot be dismissed in the same way.
4 cool beans
it also wouldnt be hard to have sanji mistake zora for being a man, and even after finding out still treating him that way because he knows that zora would feel disrespected otherwise. making an exception here really wouldnt be a big deal. oh n' maybe zora has an insecurity complex about wanting to be like a "warrior" and not a "woman", but eventually gains more confidence and is willing to relax more.
zora never had a problem with being a woman in and of itself, but she thought that it was a sort of "antithesis" to being a warrior, to being a great swordsman, to being the very, very, very strongest. she would come to realize that such thinking is just silly. sanji would still continue to show zora the same level of "respect" as before, because zora would still never want to be treated any differently, but to just let live how she is without constantly worrying about being a woman and feeling the need to overcompensate.
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1 kuina was upset about women being weaker than men, and male zoros goal of becoming the worlds strongest swordsman does nothing to challenge that, plus...swordswoman in one piece do actually suck
2 better female rep in the series. woman arent necessarily poorly written in the series, but there arent that many strong women, women tend to be close to if not the weakest in whatever group they are apart of, and in terms of the top tiers...big mom is basically the only woman I can think of. there arent ANY women that have a "role" like that of roger, rayleigh, scopper, shanks, beckman, whitebeard, sengoku, garp, oden, mihawk or rocks. tsuru and shakky easily could've worked for that to some extent, but instead they are given zero prominence and zero emphasis given to their capabilities, minus tsuru being smart...apparently.
3 i know yamato and kiku exist, but if it was "zora" instead of "zoro", the whole wano sexism thing could have been expanded on further. yamato is an oni with a devil fruit who is the son of kaido, and kiku's strength can easily be handwaved away as her still being biologically male, but "zora"'s strength, might, heroism and prowess cannot be dismissed in the same way.
4 cool beans
