Character Discussion Introductions of Kaido and Big Mom

[TheblinkingBat]

Kaido and Big Mom's appearances were probably the 2 most anticipating introductions in the whole series that back in the day, fans designed multiple drawings on how they'd look like and especially Kaido cause he was the most hyped character in the whole OP Series, which design you thought they'd be back in the day?

Like in what way does Big Mom of the first appearance looks anything like the one we'd see throughout the whole series? also the VA was different (R.I.P BM's first VA), IMO BM of the first introduction was way terrifying and more intimidating and more serious, also her head looked more bigger than her body

And ofc we don't trust Oda's Silhouettes, BM looks like a curly 14 Y/O Boy and Kaido looks like Freddie Mercury

BM's face before introduction and they write Kaido on it and back in the time when we thought 850000000 was too much

Kaido looking like a ghost

Kaido looking like Doflamingo and Big Mom looked fat but yet athletic

Kaido in which both were in Trafalgar Law's imagination back in the episode/chapter where he beats Vergo and dropped his epic speech about the new generation

In Jinbe's imagination

https://wallpapercave.com/yonko-wallpapers

 

[Blackbeard]

That pose gave the impression that, whatever that thing was, it could use Admiral-level characters as dildos.

That’s how much intimidation went down the shitter ever since.

 

[Dragon777]

BM's introduction was crazy.

 

[TheblinkingBat]

Fan arts of how Kaido would've looked like and other fan arts of Kaido after his appearance:

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BM's introduction was crazy.

Each Yonko is world's strongest "something" like

Kaido: World's strongest creature
Whitebeard: World's strongest man
Big Mom: World's strongest woman
Shanks: World's strongest amputee
Blackbeard: World's strongest fat man/black man/DF user...Idk
Buggy: World's strongest clown
Luffy: World's strongest kid
Mihawk (should be the real yonko): World's strongest swordsman

 

[TheblinkingBat]

I made the original about 2 years ago probably, and have updated it a few times since, particularly after G5 and after Blackbeard fought Law I might have even had a better one at one time, with more links. I think it covers things pretty well though.

Also there was a cover of how Kaido would look like but I can't find it, it was in the thumbnail of a video called "Kaido is a Typhon" and Kaido's pic was nearly looking like Ichigo in his hollow form

Edit: Finally I found it!!!!

 

[Buusatan94]

So much hype back then, and then so much disappointment when the Yonko Saga happened....

Oda is great at building up hype and high expectations but far weaker at actually delivering with his story and characters it when the time comes.

 

[moreha9685]

I remember a theory back on Orojackson that I can't find any fucking where, not even with the Way Back Machine.

It was so intriguing, and it turned out to be the opposite of what we got.
Basically, fans theorized back then that Kaido was an invincible monster (hence beast title), Oars taken to the very extreme, whose powerhouse status was used from the shadows by a coward Chinese-like dwarf puppet master schemer (potentially from the Kano country), controlling Wano from afar. Going against Kaido was a suicidal mission, because he truly was invincible, but the trick lay in defeating this puppet master, without whose control Kaido was just a dumb brute: still invincible, but easily tricked imprisonable.

Instead we got the puppet master working for Kaido, and the coward schemer being killed by Kaido himself and having a wasted Orochi DF

 

[Redditworstgencancer]

So much hype back then, and then so much disappointment when the Yonko Saga happened....

Oda is great at building up hype and high expectations but far weaker at actually delivering with his story and characters it when the time comes.

Loda the king of nothingburger and disappointments.

But as it was obvious, that Kaido and Big Mom where only big obstacle, while Shanks and BB were more story relevant. I still think Big Mom should have fallen in Wano, because Kaido was betraying her and start the biggest war the world would see rather than falling vs “Luffy in Onigashima..“ Awakened Big Mom against awakaned Law, Kidd & Luffy and Awakened Kaido should have fallen in A Battle Royale vs Gorosei, Admirals and Luffy + co.

 

[Buusatan94]

Loda the king of nothingburger and disappointments.

But as it was obvious, that Kaido and Big Mom where only big obstacle, while Shanks and BB were more story relevant. I still think Big Mom should have fallen in Wano, because Kaido was betraying her and start the biggest war the world would see rather than falling vs “Luffy in Onigashima..“ Awakened Big Mom against awakaned Law, Kidd & Luffy and Awakened Kaido should have fallen in A Battle Royale vs Gorosei, Admirals and Luffy + co.

I disagree about Big Mom coming to Wano. She should have come to Elbaf, while Kaido's should have been a team effort with all the Supernovas present at Wano.

 

[TheblinkingBat]

So much hype back then, and then so much disappointment when the Yonko Saga happened....

Oda is great at building up hype and high expectations but far weaker at actually delivering with his story and characters it when the time comes.

I remember a theory back on Orojackson that I can't find any fucking where, not even with the Way Back Machine.

It was so intriguing, and it turned out to be the opposite of what we got.
Basically, fans theorized back then that Kaido was an invincible monster (hence beast title), Oars taken to the very extreme, whose powerhouse status was used from the shadows by a coward Chinese-like dwarf puppet master schemer (potentially from the Kano country), controlling Wano from afar. Going against Kaido was a suicidal mission, because he truly was invincible, but the trick lay in defeating this puppet master, without whose control Kaido was just a dumb brute: still invincible, but easily tricked imprisonable.

Instead we got the puppet master working for Kaido, and the coward schemer being killed by Kaido himself and having a wasted Orochi DF

Loda the king of nothingburger and disappointments.

But as it was obvious, that Kaido and Big Mom where only big obstacle, while Shanks and BB were more story relevant. I still think Big Mom should have fallen in Wano, because Kaido was betraying her and start the biggest war the world would see rather than falling vs “Luffy in Onigashima..“ Awakened Big Mom against awakaned Law, Kidd & Luffy and Awakened Kaido should have fallen in A Battle Royale vs Gorosei, Admirals and Luffy + co.

That's why I wished if Kaido would be the final of the series, and Big Mom be his ally, cause if he would be the main villain, ofc Oda would've took his time to write him a lot better, and also, I made a thread about the pussification of One Piece (like almost everything) but even tho Oda tried to Pussify Kaido, Kaido is still Kaido, he is a beast and the coolest designed character in the history of OP and maybe all of Anime.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ng-weak-soft-like-almost-anything-else.61746/

Also, IMO, I still have Kaido to be PK level, even at by EOS, my powerscaling is just like that:

Yonko level: Gaban=<Prime Oden(same level as Garling or Loki if he were alive or maybe that was his peak)=<Prime Rayleigh<Hancock<Adio Suerte<Every member of the OG Gorosei<Bullet (same level as Garling or Loki if he were canon)=Zunesha=Prime Oars<Trafalgar Law<Sabo<Yamato<Loki=Prime Emeth

PK Level: Figarland Garling<Prime Big Mom=Prime Kong=Aokiji=Prime Sengoku<Buggy=Sanji=Prime Shiki (Canon)<Future Momonosuke=<Kaido<Future Coby=<Prime Garp=<Akainu<Mihawk=<Shanks=<Roger<Shirahoshi<Prime Whitebeard

Beyond PK level: Patrick Redfield<Ryuma=<Zoro<Uta=<Shinokuni Smiley=<Tot Musica<Rocks=<Blackbeard<Dragon=<Joyboy<Luffy=<Imu

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