Questions & Mysteries Is Akainu really a part of SWORD?!

Do you think Akainu is a member of SWORD?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 33.3%
  • No

    Votes: 18 66.7%
  • Was a part of SWORD in the past but not now

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    27

SmokedOut

Life Is Good ✌️
#21
SWORD isn't some sort of anti-akainu club. Its an elite group of marines, probably comparable to the real life Navy SEALs. The fact that drake was pretending to be a pirate pre-skip means that the SWORD likely predated akainu and was most likely set up by sengoku.
I can see that as well. Sengoku sent Corazon to infiltrate Doffy's organization, so it being composed of spies like Drake makes sense. It could definitely be a fleet admiral controlled group.
 
#22
Sakazuki could be the leader of the Sword but it doesnt go well with his character. We know him as someone who follows the orders to the T so I dont think he would be okay to operate in the grey/shady region.
Having said that, I do think he would stop working for the WG if he finds out about Ym
 
#23
I'm not sure he is a member of SWORD but they definitely answer to him as he is the fleet admiral.

Whether he's a "good" or "bad" marine doesn't really matter.

I figure the members are assigned to special missions and he is informed about the advancement of those missions.

We have to keep in mind that good marine isn't a thing. Some of them try to do their best to be of help for the people but they are a military force and basic dogs. If the celestial scumbags ordered them to kill innocent citizen they have 2 choices, leave the marines or do it.

Despite all his trashtalk, Garp didn't even have the balls to save his grandchild and was about to witness his other grandchild being donutted by Akainu if it wasn't for shanks, jimbei, buggy and law.
I agree that being a 'good' or 'bad' marine isn't really a thing but I highly doubt that it was Garp's lack of 'balls' that came in his way to save Ace. He was very conflicted between his sense of duty and his family imo. Garp has the biggest balls in the series for all I know, lol (God Valley).
 
#24
I agree that being a 'good' or 'bad' marine isn't really a thing but I highly doubt that it was Garp's lack of 'balls' that came in his way to save Ace. He was very conflicted between his sense of duty and his family imo. Garp has the biggest balls in the series for all I know, lol (God Valley).
He could have stopped all of it in Impel Down by low diffing everybody there and setting Ace free.
Dude is a legend, he could have lived the rest of his life in whatever village, nobody would have had the balls to do a thing against him.
The marines knows where Professor Rayleigh is and they don't do shit because it would cause them too much casualties. The same would apply for Garp.

But yeah it wasn't his balls, he just put his duty before his family this time. And I'm pretty sure he wouldn't do it twice. If Luffy was captured, I actually believe he would try to save him.
 
#26
He was probably a member of Sword 20+ years ago when he was first enlisted into the Marines. He was probably the leader of Sword way back then, then rose to the Rank of Vice Admiral, then Admiral, and now is the Fleet Admiral. Once he gained those ranks, someone else took over as the Leader of Sword, and then after that X-Drake took over.
That's a good theory and it'll also explain the tattoo. But why did he quit SWORD? Was it abolished and has been revived again?
 
#27
That's a good theory and it'll also explain the tattoo. But why did he quit SWORD? Was it abolished and has been revived again?
My guess is that since Swords seems to be more so a covert organization within the Marines that they tend to use strong lower rank Marines to make up it's members. Anyone holding a Rank of Vice Admiral or higher would be much too well known to be able to pull off any kind of covert ops. Drake himself was probably starting to get too well known, which is why he had to act like he quit the Marines in order to pull off his final mission as it's Captain.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
#28
I really hope not...it would provide a modicum of redemption for Sakazuki after we watched him enforce the total destruction of Ohara AND fist Ace to death, and despite his clashes with the Gorosei, he doesn’t seem like the “infiltrate the organization to revolutionize it from the inside” type of guy for the reasons above and several others. Would like to learn more about SWORD and its members, and it’s not gonna upset me if he ends up being part of it, but I really hope this isn’t like the Denj-shiro spoiler from that other opening...
 
#29
the total destruction of Ohara AND fist Ace to death
Again, both the things he did aren't wrong at all imo. Destruction of Ohara was indeed important from his perspective as they could've unleashed weapons that could potentially destroy the world. It was just cruel from our perspective because we felt for Robin. Also, executing Ace was nothing wrong as from his perspective, he was just a bad and powerful pirate. The only real 'bad' thing he did, in my opinion, was trying to kill Coby. However, I definitely don't want him to be redeemed at all because we're viewing the story from Luffy's perspective and it will definitely not feel right for his brother's killer to be redeemed like that. Though yes, I would like to have him be a grey character and not just pure evil (from our perspective) because of his Absolute Justice.
 
M

MD Zolo

#30
Again, both the things he did aren't wrong at all imo. Destruction of Ohara was indeed important from his perspective as they could've unleashed weapons that could potentially destroy the world. It was just cruel from our perspective because we felt for Robin. Also, executing Ace was nothing wrong as from his perspective, he was just a bad and powerful pirate. The only real 'bad' thing he did, in my opinion, was trying to kill Coby. However, I definitely don't want him to be redeemed at all because we're viewing the story from Luffy's perspective and it will definitely not feel right for his brother's killer to be redeemed like that. Though yes, I would like to have him be a grey character and not just pure evil (from our perspective) because of his Absolute Justice.
Killing Ace was absolutely the right thing to do as an officer of the Marine. There is no doubt about that.

However, I don't accept him killing all citizens of Ohara as something an officer meant to uphold the law should do.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
#31
Again, both the things he did aren't wrong at all imo. Destruction of Ohara was indeed important from his perspective as they could've unleashed weapons that could potentially destroy the world. It was just cruel from our perspective because we felt for Robin. Also, executing Ace was nothing wrong as from his perspective, he was just a bad and powerful pirate. The only real 'bad' thing he did, in my opinion, was trying to kill Coby. However, I definitely don't want him to be redeemed at all because we're viewing the story from Luffy's perspective and it will definitely not feel right for his brother's killer to be redeemed like that. Though yes, I would like to have him be a grey character and not just pure evil (from our perspective) because of his Absolute Justice.
Of course, both acts were morally wrong because of our own biases and whose perspective we get while reading the series. For precisely that reason, we aren’t supposed to root for him to be redeemed, but like you said, gray characters are more interesting than black and white...it would take a lot of balls from Oda to challenge his audience to accept a guy who murdered the protagonist’s sworn brother as someone who IS fighting for reform in a similar way, but adding that complexity would be in line with the first half of the series which felt less goofy overall.
 
M

MD Zolo

#34
At this point: I am somewhat convinced that the Ancient Kingdom is evil and if Luffy uncovers One Piece, he will bring upon the destruction of the world as we know it.

So, if we are shown that indeed Oharan Scholars were working to uncover something that would destroy the world, may be the readers will be less angry with Akainu.

Personally, I have not faulted him at all for killing Ace and beating WB to half-death. I have however didn't like him killing his own underlings for desertion (however I acknowledge that even in real world, desertion is a very serious offense) and I absolutely cannot justify him wiping out Ohara.

But the more complex he becomes, the more likable he will be to me. Akainu has a lot of potential to be a really complex and gray character.
 
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