Questions & Mysteries Is it me or is the Donquixote family more functional crew than Big Mom ‚ Beast and Whitebeard as a crew ?

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Lightbolt

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Whitebeard had a crew member kill another for a devil fruit. It was very easy to manipulate someone into stabbing Whitebeard. One wasted his crew's sacrifice to save him just cause of his pride.

Big Mom kills her children. She Can go on hunger pangs and sabotage herself. None of her children are okay with this and one of them abandoned her. The other betrayed her

Beast pirates is like rule of the jungle. Even a calamity can't keep his position safe if a toppi roppo beats him. Inhumane use of oni toxin and smiles which creates pleasures.

For the Donquixote‚ Doflamingo was mad a fodder like Giola was being captured by Law. He never cut off Trebol after failing to protect Sugar. Monet and Vergo were willingly ready to sacrifice themselves for him
 
Orojackson Refugee

Orojackson Refugee

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Lightbolt said:
That is part of Baby 5's gag. And why didn't he kill Trebol for ruining his 10 years old plan for not protecting Sugar ?
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Pretty sure baby 5 was crying when lao g insulted her. That seemed serious. I was referring to the sai fight.
Well, losing caesar means doffy would have to face kaido. I guess in the case for trebol, doffy could still tolerate it as long as the riku family, law, luffy were killed at the end. But it means doffy didn't hesitate to kill his crewmember.
 
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Jabp2020

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Lightbolt said:
Whitebeard had a crew member kill another for a devil fruit. It was very easy to manipulate someone into stabbing Whitebeard. One wasted his crew's sacrifice to save him just cause of his pride.

Big Mom kills her children. She Can go on hunger pangs and sabotage herself. None of her children are okay with this and one of them abandoned her. The other betrayed her

Beast pirates is like rule of the jungle. Even a calamity can't keep his position safe if a toppi roppo beats him. Inhumane use of oni toxin and smiles which creates pleasures.

For the Donquixote‚ Doflamingo was mad a fodder like Giola was being captured by Law. He never cut off Trebol after failing to protect Sugar. Monet and Vergo were willingly ready to sacrifice themselves for him
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I agree on Animal Kingdom and Big Mom Pirates. But not on Whitebeard Pirates, their devotion to their father was very deep. Moreover, the individuals we have seen (Marco, Jozu, Izo, Ace) are very impressive, even among Yonko Crews.

Marineford War is not a good indication as even the Roger Pirates or Rocks Pirates would have been destroyed there. No single crew in OP history can take on 6 Top tiers at the same time.

Doflamingo wasn't even as benevolent as you make him sound. He would use the entire world if he had the opportunity, and although he had some camaraderie with his crew, the moment they become a nuisance he would get rid of them.

If there is a crew who appeared to be the Poster Boys for "Functional" were the Roger Pirates or it's successors the Red Hair Pirates.
 
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UniversallyBlue

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Well yes, yes they are (excluding the WBP). But that is because of what holds them together.

What holds the Beast pirates together is streinght, if you are weak you have no authority. If Kaido were to lose
(which he will) the BP would fall apart.

WBP are a family and in a family what matters the most is love and trust.

BMP are held together by fear. Everyone is afraid of Big Mom and losing her approval can be dangerous.
Simply losing a single fight can cost you your position which is why Smoothie was/is so useless. She cant risk losing her
position so she avoids direct confrontation.

Donquixote pirates on the other hand are like a cult. Each member is ready to die for their god (Mingo) if he were to
command it (Like he did to Monet). A bond like that is hard to break as we have witnessed in the real world many times
with many different sects and cults and can easily be exploited by the leader.
 
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Lightbolt

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NotTommy said:
If we count Teach, couldn't you also count Rosinante? He was part of the crew but was working undercover the whole time.
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Teach was a Whitebeard pirate‚ who never intended on betrayal until Thatch's Yami Yami.
Rosinante was never a Donqixote pirate‚ he infiltrated as an undercover from the beginning. ( Like Xdrake to beasts pirates and Itachi to Akatsuki )
 
Midnight Delight

Midnight Delight

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I am not sure if you can compare the Doflamingo pirates to Yonko crews.

Doflamingo intentionally made his crew small made up of only people he saw as family. Meanwhile even Big Mom allowed the likes of Pekoms Tamago and Bobbins in her Crew despite supposedly only trusting her blood ties.

Doflamingo's crew was not meant to be an empire, but rather about 15 people who devout themselves to Doflamingo's cause.


It should be noted that the Pleasures and waiters were actually pretty loyal to the Beast Pirates up untill Queen acted like a moron. Meanwhile the Smiles only "betrayed" them because they got brainwashed. And the Flying six and Calamities seem loyal to Kaido despite of their competitive personalities
 
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Jo_Ndule

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:okay:
Praline and Chiffon followed their husbands
Lola left

I don't see where you saw disfuncitonality there cos BMp run their crew well

"They fear her thats why they serve her" no, wrong
They fear their lives if they mess up but they still love and defend heir Mother!

There's no Yonko crew that run itself properly like BMP. It is well organised with each island having it minister
Everybody minding their business

Beast pirates crew is a mess, just a mess
 
Sadistic Senpai

Sadistic Senpai

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Lightbolt said:
Whitebeard had a crew member kill another for a devil fruit. It was very easy to manipulate someone into stabbing Whitebeard. One wasted his crew's sacrifice to save him just cause of his pride.

Big Mom kills her children. She Can go on hunger pangs and sabotage herself. None of her children are okay with this and one of them abandoned her. The other betrayed her

Beast pirates is like rule of the jungle. Even a calamity can't keep his position safe if a toppi roppo beats him. Inhumane use of oni toxin and smiles which creates pleasures.

For the Donquixote‚ Doflamingo was mad a fodder like Giola was being captured by Law. He never cut off Trebol after failing to protect Sugar. Monet and Vergo were willingly ready to sacrifice themselves for him
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Not more functional than WB pirates
But more functional than the other two beast pirates and BMP
 
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Lightbolt

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Jo_Ndule said:
:okay:
Praline and Chiffon followed their husbands
Lola left

I don't see where you saw disfuncitonality there cos BMp run their crew well

"They fear her thats why they serve her" no, wrong
They fear their lives if they mess up but they still love and defend heir Mother!

There's no Yonko crew that run itself properly like BMP. It is well organised with each island having it minister
Everybody minding their business

Beast pirates crew is a mess, just a mess
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Organised that she kills her children ? Lol
 
sanjikun

sanjikun

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Well Doflamingo and Hancock (Kuma/Mihawk too?) are kings/queens, not emperors which have can have multiple kingdoms under their belt.

An empire is larger than 1 kingdom, and it's easier to infiltrate.
 
Mochiman

Mochiman

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Lightbolt said:
Teach was a Whitebeard pirate‚ who never intended on betrayal until Thatch's Yami Yami.
Rosinante was never a Donqixote pirate‚ he infiltrated as an undercover from the beginning. ( Like Xdrake to beasts pirates and Itachi to Akatsuki )
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To be fair, Teach only joined the WBP because it would make it easier for him to find the Yami Yami no Mi. I don't think he was ever 100% loyal to WB. At the end of the day, Teach is an opportunist, like any true pirate.
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But the BMP seem to me to be very well organized. The only problem is BM's hunger.
 
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