Powers & Abilities Is Kaido TOO special?

Yes or no?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 50.0%
  • No

    Votes: 9 50.0%

  • Total voters
    18
#21
You don't need to be born with the ability to kill kaido. We have only seen the CoA of luffy, the scabbards, and zoro who hurt kaido. They aren't the absolute best in haki and adcoa only allows your level of CoA to cause internal destruction. So say someone like mihawks CoA would be better than say zoro's against kaido. So no you don't need CoC to kill kaido luffy does because all his other stats overall aren't enough to do it currently. You can't compare the current to everyone else unless you think luffy zoro and the scabbards have the absolute best CoA in the series right now.

Second df is clearly a huge factor. I highly doubt kaido would survive akainu punching a hole in his head without CoC. Or kuzan freezing and shattering him, or BB quake punching him to death. None of these characters have CoC confirmed yet if kaido just let himself get hit he'd die.

Kaido is unique in that he's a highly durable monster with abilities that are at the top of the verse. He's essentially a amped up roided marco who's already really strong himself. You need a certain level of AP to even think of beating kaido which you can gain but no you don't have to be a chosen at birth to beat him.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#22
I realize that people are paying more attention to HEADCANON than to the manga itself and the information that was passed on to us ...
Luffy said: It is very shallow, very shallow.
Luffy performed how many strokes on Kaido?
Detail: Luffy used his G4 form, which is the form that has more AP.

When KAIDO received Luffy's punch in 1000, he already knew that Luffy had HAKI from the conqueror, which is why the phrase "How high will you get" came from.More during the fight, Luffy was defeated 3 times, and his blows with ADCOA was not taking effect, dragon KAIDO was clean. Even after noticing the strange HAKI flow,and identify that ZORO had ODEN's sword, and after being cut, during the 10 minutes that Luffy was unconscious and ZORO was 100%, Kid said: Our blows are not working, and we saw KAIDO unharmed.

"more kaido dodged luffy", any luffy hit is superficial before ADCOA he proved it, he said it, even though KAIDO hadn't dodged it.


Going to the main subject, yes, KAIDO is special, you need to have ADCOC to fight equally with him, and even if you have ADCOA it does not mean that you will win,
because now everything is the same, and even if everything is the same, kaido has its resistance and recovery, every blow will not have the same AP as a finishing blow during the fight and that is why kaido will be recovering
of weaker blows ...
KAIDO above all, has ADCOC on the same level as SHANKS, to tell you the truth, it will not be surprising that KAIDO has the highest COC, because he has the greatest ambition.
He wants to take over the world, he wants the biggest war in the world, he wants a pirate empire, he wants to be a pirate king, he wants to build the biggest army in the world.

If you take over the world you are automatically the king of the world, kaido wants to bring fear to humanity, and chaos and war.
but he didn’t separate SHANKS from the supposed "strongest", he put himself as an equal, so SHANKS isn’t that ADCOC GOD, SHANKS never scored permanent KAIDO, he never beaten him, not even KAIDO sees him below SHANKS,
he sees himself as the WSM, KAIDO sees SHANKS only as capable of fighting him, because logically, SHANKS has ADCOC, but KAIDO's conclusion is that he is the WSM and the strongest, he will win SHANKS.
And this is for you reader, who thinks that by just having ADCOC you beat KAIDO, you are mistaken, KAIDO is seeing himself above and saying that it is the WSM, even after confronting the supposed strongest user of ADCOC "shanks".

Being able to fight kaido is different from being stronger.
Luffy before TS was not able to fight a person using a DF LOGIA, KIZARU, AKAINU, AOKIJI.
Luffy after the TS is able to fight a DF LOGIA, he can fight them thanks to the COA.
Does this mean that luffy being able to fight LOGIA, he is stronger than AKAINU, KIZARU, AOKIJI? Do not.
What has changed is that he is now able to fight LOGIA DF, not that he is stronger.
The same applies to KAIDO, luffy has become capable, as well as SHANKS, this does not mean that he is stronger.

ADCOA has failed to defeat KAIDO, luffy has proved it, and now he is using ADCOC, using ADCOC he fulfilled the requirement to fight KAIDO, to be able to do that.
Obtaining COA, luffy fulfilled the requirement to be able to fight against a user of DF LOGIA.

Did you understand that the requirement to be able to fight KAIDO is at another special level?
He's special.

KAIDO is special, it is already special for having COC, even more special for using ADCOC, it is special for having an insane recovery and durability, only surpassed by ADCOC users that even if they overcome it it is uncertain to beat it, it is a natural disaster , as I explained in a post I made.
Don't be sad, he's WSM, WSC, WSP, King 1x1, don't be sad if MIHAWK doesn't have ADCOC, ZORO has COC because he'll get over it, he's going to overtake WSS, it's totally understandable, ZORO who'll get over Mihawk has COC , and Mihawk himself did not, ZORO took a step to overcome Mihawk with COC.​
 

Rosella.Fiamingo

Peerless In History
#23
I realize that people are paying more attention to HEADCANON than to the manga itself and the information that was passed on to us ...
Luffy said: It is very shallow, very shallow.
Luffy performed how many strokes on Kaido?
Detail: Luffy used his G4 form, which is the form that has more AP.

When KAIDO received Luffy's punch in 1000, he already knew that Luffy had HAKI from the conqueror, which is why the phrase "How high will you get" came from.More during the fight, Luffy was defeated 3 times, and his blows with ADCOA was not taking effect, dragon KAIDO was clean. Even after noticing the strange HAKI flow,and identify that ZORO had ODEN's sword, and after being cut, during the 10 minutes that Luffy was unconscious and ZORO was 100%, Kid said: Our blows are not working, and we saw KAIDO unharmed.

"more kaido dodged luffy", any luffy hit is superficial before ADCOA he proved it, he said it, even though KAIDO hadn't dodged it.


Going to the main subject, yes, KAIDO is special, you need to have ADCOC to fight equally with him, and even if you have ADCOA it does not mean that you will win,
because now everything is the same, and even if everything is the same, kaido has its resistance and recovery, every blow will not have the same AP as a finishing blow during the fight and that is why kaido will be recovering
of weaker blows ...
KAIDO above all, has ADCOC on the same level as SHANKS, to tell you the truth, it will not be surprising that KAIDO has the highest COC, because he has the greatest ambition.
He wants to take over the world, he wants the biggest war in the world, he wants a pirate empire, he wants to be a pirate king, he wants to build the biggest army in the world.

If you take over the world you are automatically the king of the world, kaido wants to bring fear to humanity, and chaos and war.
but he didn’t separate SHANKS from the supposed "strongest", he put himself as an equal, so SHANKS isn’t that ADCOC GOD, SHANKS never scored permanent KAIDO, he never beaten him, not even KAIDO sees him below SHANKS,
he sees himself as the WSM, KAIDO sees SHANKS only as capable of fighting him, because logically, SHANKS has ADCOC, but KAIDO's conclusion is that he is the WSM and the strongest, he will win SHANKS.
And this is for you reader, who thinks that by just having ADCOC you beat KAIDO, you are mistaken, KAIDO is seeing himself above and saying that it is the WSM, even after confronting the supposed strongest user of ADCOC "shanks".

Being able to fight kaido is different from being stronger.
Luffy before TS was not able to fight a person using a DF LOGIA, KIZARU, AKAINU, AOKIJI.
Luffy after the TS is able to fight a DF LOGIA, he can fight them thanks to the COA.
Does this mean that luffy being able to fight LOGIA, he is stronger than AKAINU, KIZARU, AOKIJI? Do not.
What has changed is that he is now able to fight LOGIA DF, not that he is stronger.
The same applies to KAIDO, luffy has become capable, as well as SHANKS, this does not mean that he is stronger.

ADCOA has failed to defeat KAIDO, luffy has proved it, and now he is using ADCOC, using ADCOC he fulfilled the requirement to fight KAIDO, to be able to do that.
Obtaining COA, luffy fulfilled the requirement to be able to fight against a user of DF LOGIA.

Did you understand that the requirement to be able to fight KAIDO is at another special level?
He's special.

KAIDO is special, it is already special for having COC, even more special for using ADCOC, it is special for having an insane recovery and durability, only surpassed by ADCOC users that even if they overcome it it is uncertain to beat it, it is a natural disaster , as I explained in a post I made.
Don't be sad, he's WSM, WSC, WSP, King 1x1, don't be sad if MIHAWK doesn't have ADCOC, ZORO has COC because he'll get over it, he's going to overtake WSS, it's totally understandable, ZORO who'll get over Mihawk has COC , and Mihawk himself did not, ZORO took a step to overcome Mihawk with COC.​
I was like who was wanking Kaido this hard then I looked at the user name. :milaugh:
 
#25
He is special for a reason I feel, like he’s the strongest pirate essentially it’s a massive obstacle for Luffy and and the alliance to get through not just a punching bag, the guy has experience, crazy base power, op DF, all three Hakis and more.

He’s the real guide to measure how strong Luffy is right now post ts and with the new training, but remember that Luffy is Odas favourite character so at one point we will see Luffy outshine Kaido in one way or another.

we right in the middle of the heat right now
 
#26
depends
he is clearly damaged by ryou
had to dodge the red hawk
hiryu kean missed

but adding coc to your attacks is more of a guarantee
dont think he is too special
he is just the first top tier luffy has to take down
the next ones he might have to pull even more out of his pocket.
 
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