General & Others Is Oda trying to force ZKK on us?
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its now more than 3 Years since he start to giving hints 
I really don't care for making predictions. I don't have any stake in this. I'll believe it when I see it, but I also like going with someone's history or track record. Knowing Oda it's not happening. If it happens? Even better.
I was just curious on how the "smart" people so sure of this happening making condescending posts will feel if it doesn't happen. That would just make the deniers right the entire time.
I was just curious on how the "smart" people so sure of this happening making condescending posts will feel if it doesn't happen. That would just make the deniers right the entire time.
uh.... no. It's the opposite. Being right at the very end doesn't change being wrong the entire time.
- Zoro won't see Kaido
- Zoro won't cut Kaido
- Adult Momo is the samurai of promise
- the reaper is Brook
- Luffy definitely won't lose
- Luffy definitely won't lose part two
Etc. For each of those, I can find you five posters advocating the shifting field goal. All of these ideas formed completely around the basis that Zoro is less than he has proven.
- Zoro won't see Kaido
- Zoro won't cut Kaido
- Adult Momo is the samurai of promise
- the reaper is Brook
- Luffy definitely won't lose
- Luffy definitely won't lose part two
Etc. For each of those, I can find you five posters advocating the shifting field goal. All of these ideas formed completely around the basis that Zoro is less than he has proven.
It's logical to assume that someone who doesn't care about an outcome isn't interested in discussing a theory. I don't give a shit about Elbaf so I don't talk about it, for example. But you are interested in seeing what becomes of those of us who believe it, right? If we're wrong.
And I got back to ZKK, I was just explaining the context. To be told you're wrong about something related to things they have been wrong about generally creates distrust. But on ZKK I mentioned OPM. And if someone wants to debunk or refute every other thing we call hints, I ask: why did Toei do the bump of the PH dragon?
You missed the other question I asked by the way, when you asked if I might be misinterpreted the panic in the sky. What else might they see? What do you think the narrative could point to besides a reference to what Gyukimaru talked about?
And I got back to ZKK, I was just explaining the context. To be told you're wrong about something related to things they have been wrong about generally creates distrust. But on ZKK I mentioned OPM. And if someone wants to debunk or refute every other thing we call hints, I ask: why did Toei do the bump of the PH dragon?
You missed the other question I asked by the way, when you asked if I might be misinterpreted the panic in the sky. What else might they see? What do you think the narrative could point to besides a reference to what Gyukimaru talked about?
Right, because ZKK has made headlines for multiple years now, and Wano is near its end. So now with the end being in sight I'm definitely excited to see how a chunk of the community will react when things didn't pan out the way they've been religiously preaching for years now. I do get a kick out of these kinds of things.
That is if ZKK doesn't happen.
I have zero interest in discussing the theory actually, you're right.
If you asked me if I'd prefer ZKK to happen, I'd say yes, since a death is always nice to have, and Oda giving some love at the end of a massive event like this to someone other than Luffy would be great for the story. And I've always said Oda needs to start beefing up Zoro's WSS resume, it's lackluster when you bring up the list of scrubs he's had to go through compared to the opponents Luffy gets.
If you asked me does ZKK make sense from a buildup and story perspective? Again I'd agree, I don't see why it shouldn't happen from that perspective, it adds up.
However, none of that matters, what I think makes sense and should happen doesn't align with Oda. I learn from past mistakes, I will never doubt Oda when it comes to following through with maximum Luffy wank when it's all said and done. Been reading this story for too long to expect any different. If ZKK happens it's a nice surprise.
Just like Pound dying makes perfect logical sense and there's no reason for him to be alive, but him being dead would still have come as a shock to me, if Monet is actually dead I'd be surprised, so on so forth. What's that saying, the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, this is kinda what we're dealing with here.
On the flip side I was never confident that Law and Kidd were gonna defeat Big Mom but here we are, I said I'd believe it when I saw it, so maybe Oda does feel like sharing this arc, I just think his idea of that for Zoro was the rooftop.
That is if ZKK doesn't happen.
I have zero interest in discussing the theory actually, you're right.
If you asked me if I'd prefer ZKK to happen, I'd say yes, since a death is always nice to have, and Oda giving some love at the end of a massive event like this to someone other than Luffy would be great for the story. And I've always said Oda needs to start beefing up Zoro's WSS resume, it's lackluster when you bring up the list of scrubs he's had to go through compared to the opponents Luffy gets.
If you asked me does ZKK make sense from a buildup and story perspective? Again I'd agree, I don't see why it shouldn't happen from that perspective, it adds up.
However, none of that matters, what I think makes sense and should happen doesn't align with Oda. I learn from past mistakes, I will never doubt Oda when it comes to following through with maximum Luffy wank when it's all said and done. Been reading this story for too long to expect any different. If ZKK happens it's a nice surprise.
Just like Pound dying makes perfect logical sense and there's no reason for him to be alive, but him being dead would still have come as a shock to me, if Monet is actually dead I'd be surprised, so on so forth. What's that saying, the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, this is kinda what we're dealing with here.
On the flip side I was never confident that Law and Kidd were gonna defeat Big Mom but here we are, I said I'd believe it when I saw it, so maybe Oda does feel like sharing this arc, I just think his idea of that for Zoro was the rooftop.
Recently, in an SBS, Oda was asked a question about potential devil fruits for non df usées strawhats, and for zoro he said that he wants one of his katanas to east kaido df fruit (blue dragon,). I consider this statement to be a hint towards zkk, zoro killing kaido and emprisoning part of his spirit in the blade, which turns it Into black blade
