Controversial Is OP the only animanga where agendas go so far?
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Average battle shonen + long running for decades + author hellbent on hiding his characters’ strengths + powerscaling community = this “agendas” bullshit
the only reason why other fanbases dont have it this far is simply because:
1- powerscaling is not relevant enough in the series (usually because there are rarely any proper fights to scale)
or
2- the series hasnt been running long enough to be mainstream and develop such brainless toxicity in its community.
Though its mainly Oda’s fault for not being direct and conclusive enough about how powerful the characters in his series are.
Haki is a poorly explained power system, while Devil fruits are way too diverse and all over the place.
Characters dont really die and actually have a chance to come back in the future, giving fuel for their fans to spew copium-filled shit like (Omg X is coming back! Just wait for Y! You are NOT ready for Z… Etc…)
that and keeping tons of top tier characters in the shelves and never revealing their true power until the end (Dragon, Shanks, Mihawk, Admirals, etc…)
all of this is just an inevitable recipe for “agendas” to be born. Stan fandom is a cancer.
the only reason why other fanbases dont have it this far is simply because:
1- powerscaling is not relevant enough in the series (usually because there are rarely any proper fights to scale)
or
2- the series hasnt been running long enough to be mainstream and develop such brainless toxicity in its community.
Though its mainly Oda’s fault for not being direct and conclusive enough about how powerful the characters in his series are.
Haki is a poorly explained power system, while Devil fruits are way too diverse and all over the place.
Characters dont really die and actually have a chance to come back in the future, giving fuel for their fans to spew copium-filled shit like (Omg X is coming back! Just wait for Y! You are NOT ready for Z… Etc…)
that and keeping tons of top tier characters in the shelves and never revealing their true power until the end (Dragon, Shanks, Mihawk, Admirals, etc…)
all of this is just an inevitable recipe for “agendas” to be born. Stan fandom is a cancer.
There's really only Zoro admiral and migawk fanbase. Everybody else is logical and if their not its easy to see where the logic breaks down and after a little argu8jg and debating they usually can be turned around or reach a conclusion.
At the end of the day it breaks down to Zoro akainu and Mihawk. And the fact that the young boys and men in the fanbase want to suck their ducks. There's a good bit of sexism destroying conversations but then again it boils down to how dare you think woman x is stronger than my gay lover z.
Ontop of all that dysfunction Oda also throws gas on the fire with alot of deliberate false hype and nerfing./jobbing.
At the end of the day it breaks down to Zoro akainu and Mihawk. And the fact that the young boys and men in the fanbase want to suck their ducks. There's a good bit of sexism destroying conversations but then again it boils down to how dare you think woman x is stronger than my gay lover z.
Ontop of all that dysfunction Oda also throws gas on the fire with alot of deliberate false hype and nerfing./jobbing.
I agree. It’s so bizarre out of all the different series that I’ve read/watched, it’s only One Piece where it gets to such a ridiculous level.
Simple, basic things cause an uproar with some treating basic literacy like it’s a crime.
You’ll find double standards, lies, myths, ignoring context, illogical claims, or plain stupid things said without a modicum of shame.
I’ve tried to understand it for years, but aside from some deliberate trolling by some putting on personas, there’s no logic to it.
Simple, basic things cause an uproar with some treating basic literacy like it’s a crime.
You’ll find double standards, lies, myths, ignoring context, illogical claims, or plain stupid things said without a modicum of shame.
I’ve tried to understand it for years, but aside from some deliberate trolling by some putting on personas, there’s no logic to it.
I mean the fans here.
I speak from experience when I say that there are a lot of toxic Yonko fans here, a lot of toxic Sanji fans, Zoro fans, etc.
But nothing compares to the damage Admiral wankers have done.
I don't feel like going in depth, but one of the best examples is Elder Lee's thread "Akainu is the strongest marine [now it's edited to "debunked" though]"
Not only was there a shit ton of bullying and insults in that thread, but it got to the point where some of them endorsed wishing death on Sandman and his family.
And keep in mind this still isn't a rant about the Admirals their selves, nor their fans (I'm a fan of them my self honestly), but specifically the Admiral wankers.
People who are extremely hellbent on using the Admirals for agendas and powerscaling, and hate on anyone that disagrees with them or debunks their stuff.
Now keep in mind I don't dislike the idea of trying to put the Admirals on the same pedestal as the Yonko, Mihawk, Dragon, etc., y'know the God Tiers of the verse.
But when it's all you really do on the forum and you take it so seriously it's kind of sad and disgusting.
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I'm not implying Admirals or their fans are literal Nazis.
I speak from experience when I say that there are a lot of toxic Yonko fans here, a lot of toxic Sanji fans, Zoro fans, etc.
But nothing compares to the damage Admiral wankers have done.
I don't feel like going in depth, but one of the best examples is Elder Lee's thread "Akainu is the strongest marine [now it's edited to "debunked" though]"
Not only was there a shit ton of bullying and insults in that thread, but it got to the point where some of them endorsed wishing death on Sandman and his family.
And keep in mind this still isn't a rant about the Admirals their selves, nor their fans (I'm a fan of them my self honestly), but specifically the Admiral wankers.
People who are extremely hellbent on using the Admirals for agendas and powerscaling, and hate on anyone that disagrees with them or debunks their stuff.
Now keep in mind I don't dislike the idea of trying to put the Admirals on the same pedestal as the Yonko, Mihawk, Dragon, etc., y'know the God Tiers of the verse.
But when it's all you really do on the forum and you take it so seriously it's kind of sad and disgusting.
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I'm not implying Admirals or their fans are literal Nazis.
Devils are trying to portray themselves as saints here. The most toxic, insulting, shameless, classless, non human like behavior comes from two fandoms. I get it its nice trying to be superior over the internet by cussing, insulting and even targeting someone's family but can they follow up with some cajones irl? I don't think so. All these children that don't touch grass but have illiterate and deluded takes and still have the audacity to insult without provocation are straight up weaklings irl ngl.
Also someone calling people Condomtards everyday and night is telling he is hated. Obviously if you drink the tard juice and write Condom condom every second you will be justifiably hated. None of those stupid will last 10 sec irl battles. They only write big things.
Also someone calling people Condomtards everyday and night is telling he is hated. Obviously if you drink the tard juice and write Condom condom every second you will be justifiably hated. None of those stupid will last 10 sec irl battles. They only write big things.
Nah, there’s no use in even trying to pretend. There is much worse in both quantity and quality from “Yonko wankers.” Even honest ones wouldn’t dare deny it.
On every level from the takes themselves (1 Yonko beats 3 Admirals or more), the sheer neurotic behaviour (there are some that literally cannot even type “Admiral” normally without using some crass or puerile spelling), to insults, alts and plain insane behaviour, it’s incomparable.
It’s not too long ago that Iam25 lost his mind for example just because he could no longer peddle “1 Yonko = Navy + Warlords.”
You can hate the Admirals all you want but at least do yourself the favour of being honest about it. Unsurprisingly, people coming to the defense of the Admirals even against the absurd naturally pisses you off. That’s just being human, but trying to adopt a victim mentality won’t help since this is even only 1 site…and across ALL platforms you’ll still find more Admiral hate with it only even diminishing recently because some of the more inane and outrageous claims are no longer defensible.
On every level from the takes themselves (1 Yonko beats 3 Admirals or more), the sheer neurotic behaviour (there are some that literally cannot even type “Admiral” normally without using some crass or puerile spelling), to insults, alts and plain insane behaviour, it’s incomparable.
It’s not too long ago that Iam25 lost his mind for example just because he could no longer peddle “1 Yonko = Navy + Warlords.”
You can hate the Admirals all you want but at least do yourself the favour of being honest about it. Unsurprisingly, people coming to the defense of the Admirals even against the absurd naturally pisses you off. That’s just being human, but trying to adopt a victim mentality won’t help since this is even only 1 site…and across ALL platforms you’ll still find more Admiral hate with it only even diminishing recently because some of the more inane and outrageous claims are no longer defensible.
