Questions & Mysteries Is Toki Alive ?

[Homelander]

The last scene where Toki was standing on the Bakura Town ! What do you think happened we haven't seen last of her in that scene ?

Its Speculative ,in one of the scene Oden did say to Toki to leap 20 years ahead , wait for that day when the world will turn world upside down .

Do you really think Toki managed to survive the fire engulfing her or died accepting the fate because of her love towards her husband ?

 

[KiriNigiri]

She's dead. She was riddled with arrows, and there was a Beast Pirate with a gun. There even witnesses there to confirm her death.
She's d-e-a-d. Dead.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

She's better not be dead because I will be disappointed. But oh well, she was a cool character nonetheless.

 

[Homelander]

She's dead. She was riddled with arrows, and there was a Beast Pirate with a gun. There even witnesses there to confirm her death.
She's d-e-a-d. Dead.

She could just disappear using her time devil fruit . Also we didn't see her die ?

 

[KiriNigiri]

She could just disappear using her time devil fruit . Also we didn't see her die ?

You're in heavy denial now. She was on the verge of collapsing. People reported she died. If she disappeared, there'd be rumors of her disappearing. There wasn't even anything to hide her disappearance, so if people saw she disappeared, they'd say so.

 

[Homelander]

You're in heavy denial now. She was on the verge of collapsing. People reported she died. If she disappeared, there'd be rumors of her disappearing. There wasn't even anything to hide her disappearance, so if people saw she disappeared, they'd say so.

I am not in denial its speculative end of road . We didn't see Sabo's dead body turns out he was with Dragon !

I am putting on my Alex Jones Conspiracy tin foil cap and say there was no beast pirates who could venture her area because the forest was on fire . Oda wants us to think she died because ,had no chance to escape the ember that was surrounding her and she should naturally collapse .

 

[Luffy is the mc]

I hate to say that but she might still be alive. But that would be bad. Because that would mean she basically abandoned her children.

 

[KiriNigiri]

I am not in denial its speculative end of road . We didn't see Sabo's dead body turns out he was with Dragon !

It doesn't matter what we saw, people were there to see Toki's body. Sabo had the benefit of the doubt because his body wasn't seen by Luffy or Ace. Hordes of people watched Toki. And then spread the word that she died. If she disappeared, no one would've said that.

I am putting on my Alex Jones Conspiracy tin foil cap and say there was no beast pirates who could venture her area because the forest was on fire . Oda wants us to think she died because ,had no chance to escape the ember that was surrounding her and she should naturally collapse .

A Beast Pirate with a pistol was among the people watching her spread the prophecy.

Spoiler

In this very same page, you even see Toki prepare to collapse. Even if she were still alive, her body would've been disposed of.

Circling back, comparing Toki and Sabo's situations is unreliable. Sabo wanted to sail out. He was a kid dreaming big. Toki. however, was resolved to her fate. She was happy dying with her husband. Even her last wishes reflected that. Why would she suddenly go back on that? Sabo's death spelled unfinished business. Toki was the exact opposite. She fulfilled all she could.

Toki being alive is not good story telling, and quite frankly, simply not logical given all we know.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

God, I want her to be alive SO badly...but even considering that, and the fact that it was left ambiguous in this chapter, I get the feeling that we won’t see her in the present. The question now is if we’ll get more of her in somebody’s flashback; if not, she’s the most wasted character Oda’s ever created, an ignoble honor considering some of the things he’s drawn in the past.

 

[Finalbeta]

I hate to say that but she might still be alive. But that would be bad. Because that would mean she basically abandoned her children.

True and also her DF is very good to be taken by someone else as the story progresses

 

[Mohammad211]

i think she is alive (Hopefully) if not she is one of worst character in op (if not worst)

 

[Owl Ki]

I see Toki has become the Pedro/Pound of Wano now.

 

[Homelander]

It doesn't matter what we saw, people were there to see Toki's body. Sabo had the benefit of the doubt because his body wasn't seen by Luffy or Ace. Hordes of people watched Toki. And then spread the word that she died. If she disappeared, no one would've said that.



A Beast Pirate with a pistol was among the people watching her spread the prophecy.

Spoiler

In this very same page, you even see Toki prepare to collapse. Even if she were still alive, her body would've been disposed of.

Circling back, comparing Toki and Sabo's situations is unreliable. Sabo wanted to sail out. He was a kid dreaming big. Toki. however, was resolved to her fate. She was happy dying with her husband. Even her last wishes reflected that. Why would she suddenly go back on that? Sabo's death spelled unfinished business. Toki was the exact opposite. She fulfilled all she could.

Toki being alive is not good story telling, and quite frankly, simply not logical given all we know.

You misunderstood me , i never claimed the beast pirates panel weren't there but they all assumed she died along with the fire engulfing her so they took the word she didn't come out alive . However i might slightly disagree on this it is true she wants to die along with her husband ,Oden did tell her she should leap ahead 20 year timeline to witness the world upside down . We have no idea what was her objective coming to wano ? We thought same thing about Pell when he sacrificed with the bomb turns out he was alive .

 

[Homelander]

God, I want her to be alive SO badly...but even considering that, and the fact that it was left ambiguous in this chapter, I get the feeling that we won’t see her in the present. The question now is if we’ll get more of her in somebody’s flashback; if not, she’s the most wasted character Oda’s ever created, an ignoble honor considering some of the things he’s drawn in the past.

That is true however lot of things about Toki is in shade . I would say if she died then oda has left with big question what was she doing in present timeline ? Whom did she escape from ?

Those are big chunk of plot that readers will never know and seeing the panel i got the vibe Oda didn't really kill her its different from pedro and others so far , he served his purpose as character but toki's character is unfulfilled .

 

[KiriNigiri]

We have no idea what was her objective coming to wano ?

It likely involved whatever Oden and the Roger Pirates planned to do. It's all null now, since she grew content being with Oden.

but they all assumed she died along with the fire engulfing her so they took the word she didn't come out alive .

Even if they couldn't see her clearly due to the flames, she still collapsed, and was hit by arrows. The fact she received a dedicated sendoff is pretty alarming. And she died with a smile.

It seems people believing she's alive are caught up with the "ambiguity" of the scene. Ignore the death scene for the moment. What story based reason is there for Toki to be alive? Before you answer with "Void Century", revealing stuff about the Void Century is not her place. Luffy and Robin would refuse hearing about it. They had already confronted someone who knew what happened in that era in Rayleigh, and decided they'd find out for themselves. We'll learn about the Void Century once the Strawhats reach Laugh Tale. And what of her children? Why did Toki choose to not stay by their side? What was she doing that merit she live? And once all is over, what can she do? Look after Momonosuke? He has all the retainers looking after him. She isn't Komurasaki. There isn't any room for her in the arc.

She served her purpose by sending the retainers to the future. We learned that someone from the Void Century sees fulfilling this "prophecy" as important, so that likely extended to others in that time, thus we gained some incite into that time without revealing anything major. She's fulfilled her narrative purpose.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

That is true however lot of things about Toki is in shade . I would say if she died then oda has left with big question what was she doing in present timeline ? Whom did she escape from ?

Those are big chunk of plot that readers will never know and seeing the panel i got the vibe Oda didn't really kill her its different from pedro and others so far , he served his purpose as character but toki's character is unfulfilled .

I’ve said as much multiple times over, long been stumping for Toki to be alive...just not sure he’ll opt to go that route, he’s made some odd choices before.

 

[Awaken Fruit]

Sorry, she’s dead but leacy will li on Momo and his sis

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

She could just disappear using her time devil fruit . Also we didn't see her die ?

The point of Toki's character is that she didn't want to time travel again because she loved Oden and she considered that it was the moment and place she was meant to be. This even titles a chapter. Whether she could just disappear or not using her fruit, the point is that she didn't want to.

 

[JerAx]

maybe yes maybe no
well see

 

[Date]

She's dead, her "mission" in Wano was fullfilied, she meet Oden, they made childrens to have the Kozuki supporting the Joy Boy, she setup the things sending the Scabbards foward in time and creating the legend of theirs future return

Oden and Her seem to know a lot about what is going to happen in 20y and the Joy Boy thing, and know too that they wouldnt be alive there when the time come.