Powers & Abilities Is x character awaken? Just stop it with the awakening!

#21
His "of course" was a display of his arrogance in the beginning of the fight. We know katakuri is not the common fighter, he had CoC, FS, I think he just trained a lot.
We saw how he changed during his fight against luffy.
Awakening is not a given for every top tier or high high tier unless they show it or state that they are awaken.
Top tiers are common fighters, though right?
 
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#22
Having X bounty or being in X tier doesnt give you automatic awakening or top tier haki or CoC or freak status

Nope! Each top tier has his forte, you dont need awakening to be X tier,
Katakuri didnt think highly of his awakening coz he finds it common unlike FS, his base is g4 tier, awakening or not, he is still powerful

BM & Kaido are top tiers without their fruits or koka or advanced haki.
WB without df, he is top tier due to his haki and strength

Those who rely on awakening to look mighty are usually not very powerful/skilled combat wise to counter something, like Doffy... awakening was something special to him.
 
#24
They are fighters who fought in dangerous battles yet showed no sign of awakening.
Why should we give them awakening just because they are top tiers.
Just look at big mom. She is an emperor but she didn't show any advanced form of haki.
Same for kaido.
Why should it be different with their df?
Answer my question. You claimed Katakuri is no common fighter, are top tiers common fighters?
What dangerous battles have we seen?
 
#25
at least one of the calamities should have awakening imo. There's no way that Oda will just ignore zoan awakening. The beast pirates are zoan masters, at least one of them has got to have it. Also, if any of them do have it, Oda probably won't reveal it before the final fight.

Like how he didn't reveal kata was a CoC user until mid way through his battle with Luffy
 
#26
Answer my question. You claimed Katakuri is no common fighter, are top tiers common fighters?
What dangerous battles have we seen?
What difference does it make? They are strong anyway.
Marineford? Jack fought for 5 days against the dukes. Cracker 11 hours against luffy. Queen against big mom.
Do you really think it's better just to say "oh he's an admiral so of course he's awaken", "oh that guy has a bounty over 1 billion so he must have awakening"?
They don't show it, they don't have it.
I'm just saying you can't use it as a given feat unless they perform that feat.
 
#27
What difference does it make? They are strong anyway.
Marineford? Jack fought for 5 days against the dukes. Cracker 11 hours against luffy. Queen against big mom.
Do you really think it's better just to say "oh he's an admiral so of course he's awaken", "oh that guy has a bounty over 1 billion so he must have awakening"?
They don't show it, they don't have it.
I'm just saying you can't use it as a given feat unless they perform that feat.
It makes huge difference. A Logia element always originates from their own position, if you can turn the entire surrounding into your element (see Punk Hazard), your attack power is multiplied.
Marineford was only dangerous for Whitebeard, so you can make an argument for him. But Whitebeard also did not show CoC, advanced CoA and so forth, did he not have it?
Jack does not have Awakening, neither Cracker. Queen maybe.
Yep it´s better, it´s something to distinguish fighters further.
I can, what can you do about it?
 
#28
It makes huge difference. A Logia element always originates from their own position, if you can turn the entire surrounding into your element (see Punk Hazard), your attack power is multiplied.
Marineford was only dangerous for Whitebeard, so you can make an argument for him. But Whitebeard also did not show CoC, advanced CoA and so forth, did he not have it?
Jack does not have Awakening, neither Cracker. Queen maybe.
Yep it´s better, it´s something to distinguish fighters further.
I can, what can you do about it?
Nothing but then I'm just going to say that luffy is awaken. Why not after all? He just haven't used it yet :kayneshrug:
 
#34
Now you are just trolling, i take it you have no argument left and admit your defeat, ok.
If your argument is just character A is a top tier so he has awakening then it's not even the beginning of an argument, just mind stretching.
I'm not trying to win anything here. If that's what you are interested in, then you won.
 
#35
His "of course" was a display of his arrogance in the beginning of the fight. We know katakuri is not the common fighter, he had CoC, FS, I think he just trained a lot.
We saw how he changed during his fight against luffy.
Awakening is not a given for every top tier or high high tier unless they show it or state that they are awaken.
I didn't say Katakuri is a common fighter . i said him saying of course implied Awakenings are common for people on his level , and the way he said it , didn't seem arrogant

Maybe not every top tiers are awakened . but i'd bet they are , especially Akainu and Aokiji who have strong back up in PH , Teach is an exception since he only has had some years with Yami2 and Gura2 even less

YC1s are most likely Awakened as well , other than Kuri who already have and Shiryuu who's new to his fruit

Zoan YC1s Marco and King are logically awakened , since Zoan users who were fodders compared to them ( Impel Down guards ) were awakened

As for people below them though , it's not certain they have awakened since Cracker didn't have it . Doflamingo had it though

Jozu and Smoothie are 50/50
 
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