Questions & Mysteries Is Zoro overrated?

[ShishioIsBack]

Oda won't make a SH character kill another character just for revenge.

He doesn't even let villains kill other characters outside of flashbacks.

This ZKK fantasy has always been a pipe-dream.

Many supporters of this idea don't even understand that Zoro killing Kaido would actually be a victory for Kaido, since his one dream is to die in a glorious way, like Oden did. This was literally established with Kaido's introduction, where he tried to kill himself.

That's the most obvious reason why Kaido won't die by a SHs hand here: Oda won't grant him his dream.

Yeah Zoro Kills Kaido

 

[HA001]

Oda won't make a SH character kill another character just for revenge.

He doesn't even let villains kill other characters outside of flashbacks.

This ZKK fantasy has always been a pipe-dream.

Many supporters of this idea don't even understand that Zoro killing Kaido would actually be a victory for Kaido, since his one dream is to die in a glorious way, like Oden did. This was literally established with Kaido's introduction, where he tried to kill himself.

That's the most obvious reason why Kaido won't die by a SHs hand here: Oda won't grant him his dream.

Kaido doesnt just want to die or hed kill himself he wants a grand death like wb roger or oden.

 

[trav]

yes

 

[Kejon]

Yes, he is very overrated. The one we should be praising is Oden and his blade enma. Remove Enma from Zoro and what can he do in this battle? He can scratch Kaido a little bit. How the hell is that impressive.

 

[T.D.A]

Yes, he is very overrated. The one we should be praising is Oden and his blade enma. Remove Enma from Zoro and what can he do in this battle? He can scratch Kaido a little bit. How the hell is that impressive.

Oden? He's not fighting in this battle, Zoro is. The one using Enma is Zoro. One of the reasons Zoro gets overrated more than he should is because of dumb comments like this. "Take away people's powers and tools, how strong are they really?" arguments are asinine when we're discussing a shounen manga where practically everyone is using devil fruit powers and/or tools.

 

[Guymieux]

Since a lot of the Zoro fanbase actually tried to convince themselves that Zoro is actually at least on Luffy's level after the last chapter ... yes, massively overrated.

If you talk about the fans, who can look at things objectively (Zoro is really strong, but below Luffy & also below Kidd in terms of Supernova), then no, he's rated accordingly.

How the hell is zoro below kid ? What the hell has kid done to put him on zoros level

 

[mly90]

Yes, he is very overrated. The one we should be praising is Oden and his blade enma. Remove Enma from Zoro and what can he do in this battle? He can scratch Kaido a little bit. How the hell is that impressive.

You remind me of Kurwa bro have you been taking any lessons from him by any chance

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Yes, he is very overrated. The one we should be praising is Oden and his blade enma. Remove Enma from Zoro and what can he do in this battle? He can scratch Kaido a little bit. How the hell is that impressive.

MVP Zoro will do better than all

Yet
0 attack landed by himself on Kaido.
Needs boost from Law
Zapped easily by BM
Cut fire
Cut the horn

Great
What damage did he do to Kaido? Nothing but cutting the horn>hurting kaido

 

[dirtyLarry]

Sigh, I guess some people are just too blinded or emotionally attached to a fictional character here.

Have fun, but don't bitch around when everything turns out like I said once again (like it basically always does) ...

 

[T.D.A]

MVP Zoro will do better than all

Yet
0 attack landed by himself on Kaido.
Needs boost from Law
Zapped easily by BM
Cut fire
Cut the horn

Great
What damage did he do to Kaido? Nothing but cutting the horn>hurting kaido

And the only attack so far Kaido needed to dodge. And is the fight over?

The fact Oda is saving Zoro landing a hit on Kaido for later should be more of a concern to you because when it happens it's going to be a key turning point in defeating Kaido.

PS. You shouldn't have bought Kidd stock, at least not at that price.

 

[Steven]

Zoro got a direct hit by BM,he is most likely for a short period of time out of the fight

Zorro must have a Enel flashback now

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro got a direct hit by BM,he is most likely for a short period of time out of the fight

Zorro must have a Enel flashback now

He isn't out of the fight, just like the others are not

It's crystal clear how they will be back in the fight since the very next chapter lol

 

[Kejon]

Oden? He's not fighting in this battle, Zoro is. The one using Enma is Zoro. One of the reasons Zoro gets overrated more than he should is because of dumb comments like this. "Take away people's powers and tools, how strong are they really?" arguments are asinine when we're discussing a shounen manga where practically everyone is using devil fruit powers and/or tools.

Sure, it is Zoro who's doing all of it, but you cannot tell me Zoro isn't overrated. All he did this chapter is miss an attack and get hit by a lightning bolt. Now, Enma is the important thing here, because without it, Zoro wouldn't be able to "scare" BM and Kaido in the first place. In a way you can say Enma is carrying Zoro.
Also, it's strange how Kaido cares more about Oden's presence in that sword and not about Zoro himself.

 

[Rukusho]

Underrated in the sense of preconceived notions. Not that Zoro is weaker, but that he *must* be weaker because that's how shonen works. Zoro is the secondary fighter in plot so he must be lesser no matter the context.

This is usually from the same people who complain that Oda no longer emphasizes that styles make fights. Luffy appeared stronger in his second encounter with Lucci and likewise Zoro beat Kaku with strength to spare, but Zoro would've lost to Lucci because he's only number two. Zoro could no sell the jitte but he must be inferior in fighting Smoker, because he's number two. Daz was a natural counter to Luffy's powers but Luffy must still have been able to beat him back then, because he's the number two opponent. Zoro could take his own thriller Bark fights one after the other and then eat all of Luffy's pain and fatigue, but he can't be as tough because he's only number two.

Oda has built in contrivances so that Zoro hasn't actually lost in a fight since obtaining Shusui. That was almost 600 fucking chapters ago. Luffy gets bodied in fights even when he relies on others to help, like how he needed the entire country to get Dofy out of his ass despite the overrated 4th Gear. Luffy literally got fucking walled by a character who was so scared of Zoro she momentarily blacked out without taking damage. For his superior physical strength and the lack of particular pride in it, magically boosted durability and speed, and plain good fortune, Luffy is a less serious fighter. He got hit in the last chapter on purpose, come on. So Zoro has his own advantages. There isn't a single other character we've seen in the present arc with the slightest implication of taking out Kaido with one hit.

People randomly say dumb shit like Kidd is stronger, because he's a captain. I can go on but no, Zoro is not overrated.

Wow Good Post.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I do think it's a mix of both he's at times overrated and at times underrated, even using this chapter as an example : Big Mom advises Kaido the damage sponge to actually dodge (first time ever in manga) however people read it as - " he missed".

 

[ZenZu]

Zoro is TOO relevant
Like LeBron James

Lmao 🐐 Put this in your sig so you don't have to repeat it every post

 

[T.D.A]

Sure, it is Zoro who's doing all of it, but you cannot tell me Zoro isn't overrated. All he did this chapter is miss an attack and get hit by a lightning bolt. Now, Enma is the important thing here, because without it, Zoro wouldn't be able to "scare" BM and Kaido in the first place. In a way you can say Enma is carrying Zoro.
Also, it's strange how Kaido cares more about Oden's presence in that sword and not about Zoro himself.

Hiyori: "(Enma) It is a legendary katana, the one to have ever wounded Kaido!" - does that mean Enma carried Oden vs Kaido? Of course not. We know Enma needs to be tamed, and Zoro is the one doing that and utilising it in battle.

Kaido has Oden ptsd, nothing new there so of course he'd comment on feeling Oden's presence in the sword.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Lmao 🐐 Put this in your sig so you don't have to repeat it every post

I'll mention it in every Zoro releted discussion until LeZoro James becomes more popular than TSAR BOMBA

 

[Guymieux]

Sigh, I guess some people are just too blinded or emotionally attached to a fictional character here.

Have fun, but don't bitch around when everything turns out like I said once again (like it basically always does) ...

Lmfaoo you don’t have the slightest clue .

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Sure, it is Zoro who's doing all of it, but you cannot tell me Zoro isn't overrated. All he did this chapter is miss an attack and get hit by a lightning bolt. Now, Enma is the important thing here, because without it, Zoro wouldn't be able to "scare" BM and Kaido in the first place. In a way you can say Enma is carrying Zoro.
Also, it's strange how Kaido cares more about Oden's presence in that sword and not about Zoro himself.

Kaido after Luffy’s g3 : focuses on him more...
Kaido after feeling Oden in enma : doesn't even focus on Zoro

 

[Ravagerblade]

Zoro fandom, stop with your troll logic... your not kids.