Future Events It seems clear that WG&Marine will fall before Shanks and Teach

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#21
Wano Saga was about
Kaidou + Orochi + Big Mom + Doflamingo + Caesar

Now it's Mary Geoise Saga, it's about
Man With Burn Scar + Imu + Blackbeard + Akainu + Vegapunk

Egghead is New Punk Hazard
Marine HQ is New Dressrosa
Beehive Island is New WCI
Mary Geoise is New Wano
Imu's Secret Place is New Onigashima

It's just that instead of Luffy going to those Locations Separately, Oda found a way to show them all together
He made Marine HQ next to Mary Geoise, made BB want to join World Government & made Egghead directly related to Mary Geoise

This way no need for each Island to have it's own Arc, He will only have Egghead Arc & then directly Mary Geoise Arc
Where Massive Battle Royale happens (Which also involves Revos Army, RHP & Cross Guild)

End of this Battle Royale leads directly to Final Act of Story, so it's hard to tell who's gonna be Eliminated & who's gonna stay
Nope, Egghead is not Punk Hazard. Do we see the brokers broadcasting here? NO.
 
#22
Imo Blackbeard and Luffy will fight in God Valley. It disappeared 38 years ago and yet Shanks claimed 2 years ago he got wine from it to bring to Whitebeard.

As such, Shanks becoming an emperor may have occurred because the WG found out he took the Fishman Island Poneglyph and he hid it at God Valley
That could very well end up being the case! Again, in my scenario, Blackbeard most likely would not be an apocalyptic threat or on equal grounds with Luffy if they face off one last time at Laugh Tale. The big fight with Imu would almost certainly still be the epic scaled finale fans expect. This would be more of a subdued final 1v1 to wrap up the conflict Luffy and Blackbeard have had with each other in defining what it means to be a pirate and how to pursue their dreams at the finish line.
 
#26
Realize that both Shanks and Blackbeard are now more closely tied to the world government than we thought. Shanks is all but confirmed to be a celestial dragon and the gorosei knows about it. Blackbeard now wants to be a recognized king and has Garp hostage. Also both these characters are likely to be tied to God Valley (Shanks might have been there as a child and Blackbeard's ties to Rocks).
 
#30
Yeah the problem is just how kinda… lackluster they are. Like if BB is a final villain his crew should feel like final villains for the Straw Hats. That’s BBs biggest problem is that they don’t.
If you ever read Toriko, i could've probably gave you a glimpse of how creative the endgame could be more than just assigning Im as the big bad.

Good side fighting an evil group (Nitros) while a third side composed of just a single monstrosity (Acacia) is wrecking havoc after growing enormously in power which forces both good and bad to settle their differences and take on it.
 
#32
mfs betting against Teach will have their threads aging like milk, the story is exactly on the route which wants you to believe Imu is the big bad.
I can see Oda doing it,after all he did make Luffy the Sun God and BB darkness itself.


But do you personally feel it is better for the final villain to be someone who has reigned the world for over 8 centuries or a guy who just came up ιn the limelight the last 2 years,and would be deemed the new tyranny to the world just now?


The moment Oda makes Imu a fucking child because Joyboy is on the other side and Luffy is Oda's ideal child, consider the above invalid and fucking BB should be the final villain no matter what,although I do prefer his pre-ts design over the current one.
 
#33
When Luffy becomes pirate king the series will end, there is nothing after that
Luffy becomes Pirate King at Raftel. The series doesn’t end there. They still have to overthrow the WG afterwards when they’ve learned the secrets of the world.

Did you think they’d somehow defeat the overarching antagonists before they’ve even found out what they did?
 
#34
Luffy becomes Pirate King at Raftel. The series doesn’t end there. They still have to overthrow the WG afterwards when they’ve learned the secrets of the world.

Did you think they’d somehow defeat the overarching antagonists before they’ve even found out what they did?
Oda already said that the series will end when they find One Piece and that the ending is still the same as when he started drawing.

The idea that Luffy will read a stone and then get angry at the World Government is simply wrong, and we are seeing it, Egghead will provoke the conflict with the World government not with Blackbeard.
 
#35
We are receiving a lot of information from the World Government, in addition, the World Government is showing all its cards with the awakening of Saturn and the poor performance of Kizaru against Luffy with a handicap.

Everything seems that Egghead is a saga of preparation for the final battle against WG&Marine (which will take place in Elbaf) in the same way that Punk Hazard was a saga of preparation for the fight against Doflamingo in Dressrosa.

Meanwhile, Shanks and Teach aren't even on the Straw Hats' radar, all the focus is on the WG.

Clearly those two are reserved for later.:cheers::cheers:
Of course.

Zolo fighting Mihawk after everything is over, or Emperor underling Mihawk still being around when all Emperors fall, only to protect fake Emperor Buggy makes no sense. Oda needs to get rid of these guys, he can't have Cross Guild at the end of the series.

Luffy and Teach are Worst Gen members and Emperors, they should be the last falling Emperors.

Buggy being Emperor was planned before by Oda:


Buggy/Mihawk first
Shanks second
Teach last
 
#36
Oda already said that the series will end when they find One Piece and that the ending is still the same as when he started drawing.

The idea that Luffy will read a stone and then get angry at the World Government is simply wrong, and we are seeing it, Egghead will provoke the conflict with the World government not with Blackbeard.
No. Oda said the most exciting part of Luffy’s journey will end, not the entire series.

You also avoided my question (for obvious reasons). Did you think that the Strawhats & co would somehow take down the WG before even finding out what they did in the past?
Why did you think Rayleigh mentioned the Strawhats may come to a different answer if the WG was already taken down before they even got there?
 

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#38
Shanks falls first then BBPs then Marines/WG.

Even if the final battle is a 4 way battle royale between Strawhats, Red Hair, Blackbeard and Navy then I feel like the order would be still the same.
 
#39
No. Oda said the most exciting part of Luffy’s journey will end, not the entire series.

You also avoided my question (for obvious reasons). Did you think that the Strawhats & co would somehow take down the WG before even finding out what they did in the past?
Why did you think Rayleigh mentioned the Strawhats may come to a different answer if the WG was already taken down before they even got there?
It doesn't matter what they did in the past, it only matters what they do in the present.

Luffy is not going to read a stone and say: "oh that's terrible, I'm going to avenge all those people from 800 years ago that I don't even know!"
 
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