Its time to overthrow Oda
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Not only was God Valley a large scale conflict with the goal not being to fight but to save Shakky and steal treasure
To top it all off it took place in a flashback
If you expected anything more than a few clashes then you haven’t been paying attention to any flashback prior to this one. Not a single flashback fight has ever been long or fleshed out
Marineford is an example of how something like this is supposed to go (and even then it took place in the present so it isn’t the same)
Marineford is clash piece 101 except people have nostalgia goggles on. We didn’t stick to a single fight for more than 2-3 pages before cutting away if that
Marco kicks Kizaru -> cut to Aokiji fighting Jozu for a page -> cut to Whitebeard clashing with Akainu -> cut to Jinbei attacking Moria -> cut to Vista clashing with Mihawk
And that’s because the goal wasn’t to defeat the Marines but to save Ace. Every character was doing their best to accomplish that goal and that’s what Oda chose to focus on
The Final War is more like Onigashima in that victory is directly tied to defeating all of their opponents. We’ll get fully fleshed out fights because the sole goal of the alliance will be toppling the World Government through defeating them
To top it all off it took place in a flashback
If you expected anything more than a few clashes then you haven’t been paying attention to any flashback prior to this one. Not a single flashback fight has ever been long or fleshed out
Marineford is an example of how something like this is supposed to go (and even then it took place in the present so it isn’t the same)
Marineford is clash piece 101 except people have nostalgia goggles on. We didn’t stick to a single fight for more than 2-3 pages before cutting away if that
Marco kicks Kizaru -> cut to Aokiji fighting Jozu for a page -> cut to Whitebeard clashing with Akainu -> cut to Jinbei attacking Moria -> cut to Vista clashing with Mihawk
And that’s because the goal wasn’t to defeat the Marines but to save Ace. Every character was doing their best to accomplish that goal and that’s what Oda chose to focus on
The Final War is more like Onigashima in that victory is directly tied to defeating all of their opponents. We’ll get fully fleshed out fights because the sole goal of the alliance will be toppling the World Government through defeating them
I mean Marineford is called the “War of the Best” and there wasn’t a single full fight
I do think there was a lot of unjustified hype behind it having seen the whole event
But it also comes down to fan expectations not matching the way Oda has ever written the story
Cause it sounds like if Marineford came out today people would complain just as much
I do think there was a lot of unjustified hype behind it having seen the whole event
But it also comes down to fan expectations not matching the way Oda has ever written the story
Cause it sounds like if Marineford came out today people would complain just as much
There were fights they were just mostly clashes
Marineford was also hyped up as a large scale conflict between the Marines and the Whitebeard Pirates
You wanna give me a single fight that we saw from beginning to end?
I’m not denying that God Valley didn’t fully deliver. I’m just saying that this is also a case of expectations not properly being managed
Marineford was also hyped up as a large scale conflict between the Marines and the Whitebeard Pirates
You wanna give me a single fight that we saw from beginning to end?
I’m not denying that God Valley didn’t fully deliver. I’m just saying that this is also a case of expectations not properly being managed
@Peepooman Your rival has come 
I think there is a legitimate aspect of people expecting too much which will get worse as we get farther into the story.
That said GV was far from perfect and many complaints are quite justifiable.
Oda's lacklustre approach to fights was not unexpected but still frustrating, this is a very action focused story regardless of lore.
That said GV was far from perfect and many complaints are quite justifiable.
Oda's lacklustre approach to fights was not unexpected but still frustrating, this is a very action focused story regardless of lore.
Never claimed to hate negativity. Just people making multiple posts just to incessantly cry left and right, while repeatedly claiming that they’re finally done reading One Piece. It’s obnoxious, and since I have nothing to do at work for the next 6 hours I have all the time in the world to point out the obnoxious immature behavior of the people who do that.
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