Speculations Jinbe and the Vinsomkes' escape, and where is Prometheus

[ardym]

it seems pretty sure that Jinbe, his crew and the Vinsmokes must have escaped BM , and to be honest it is expected since she has to fight them on the see , i can see Jinbe must have sunk her under water , just like happened to her in Wano , sure her crew will rescue her but that must have given the Fishmen and the Vinsomoke time to escape her territory. the fishmen can go undetected under water and the Vin smokes have fast ships , and since BM had lost Zeus she must have been able to follow them.
I think BM used the soul in Prometheus and created the homie that used to go after the strawhats after she ate the cake , i aussume Jinbe let it capsized and killed it under water. so BM has lost Prometheus as well.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Hmmn...on the issue of Jinbe and the Vinz surviving, if those 9 shadows Toki spoke about are referring to the SHs, then chances are that Jinbe might have kicked the bucket. Also, Luffy's last words to Jinbe bug me a bit "Don't die even if you die". It kinda makes me feel like Jinbe has died but will remain alive in some way. Maybe Lilin killed him and kept his soul? Or maybe Jinbe voluntarily gave up his soul in exchange for his crews' lives. I mean Jinbe does have a soul powerful enough to withstand Lilin's Soul Pocus technique, which makes Jinbe's soul very valuable, so I could see Lilin letting a few things slide in exchange for his soul. Moreover she was in an awfully good mood thanks to Sanji's cake.

On the vinz, their technology is still very valuable, so Lilin might have preserved their lives in exchange for it. Moreover, I feel like Pudding could come into play here. She seemingly made that scrumptious cake for Lilin which saved the whole nation of totland, so I wouldn't be surprising if Lilin granted any wish she desired. In which case she could've maybe said something like she would like to keep the vinz under her as her personal slaves or something.

Lastly on prometeous, I reckon he's with Lilin's crew, if not he's screwed...lolz as he'd defo have perished if he fell into the ocean with Lilin.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Idk where they could be, maybe they're captured or they escaped, it can go either way.
But let's hope for some Reiju retcon business! Mawahahaha.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Hmmn...on the issue of Jinbe and the Vinz surviving, if those 9 shadows Toki spoke about are referring to the SHs, then chances are that Jinbe might have kicked the bucket. Also, Luffy's last words to Jinbe bug me a bit "Don't die even if you die". It kinda makes me feel like Jinbe has died but will remain alive in some way. Maybe Lilin killed him and kept his soul? Or maybe Jinbe voluntarily gave up his soul in exchange for his crews' lives. I mean Jinbe does have a soul powerful enough to withstand Lilin's Soul Pocus technique, which makes Jinbe's soul very valuable, so I could see Lilin letting a few things slide in exchange for his soul. Moreover she was in an awfully good mood thanks to Sanji's cake.

On the vinz, their technology is still very valuable, so Lilin might have preserved their lives in exchange for it. Moreover, I feel like Pudding could come into play here. She seemingly made that scrumptious cake for Lilin which saved the whole nation of totland, so I wouldn't be surprising if Lilin granted any wish she desired. In which case she could've maybe said something like she would like to keep the vinz under her as her personal slaves or something.

Lastly on prometeous, I reckon he's with Lilin's crew, if not he's screwed...lolz as he'd defo have perished if he fell into the ocean with Lilin.

Toki isnt a prophet or can see the future. The 9 scabbards are the 9 scabbards. Jinbe isnt dead guys

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

it seems pretty sure that Jinbe, his crew and the Vinsmokes must have escaped BM , and to be honest it is expected since she has to fight them on the see , i can see Jinbe must have sunk her under water , just like happened to her in Wano , sure her crew will rescue her but that must have given the Fishmen and the Vinsomoke time to escape her territory. the fishmen can go undetected under water and the Vin smokes have fast ships , and since BM had lost Zeus she must have been able to follow them.
I think BM used the soul in Prometheus and created the homie that used to go after the strawhats after she ate the cake , i aussume Jinbe let it capsized and killed it under water. so BM has lost Prometheus as well.

I'm more into the possibility of them being caught and released during or after Wano by the Blackbeard Pirates as a link between arcs. Jinbe was quite connected to Teach because of the whole Ace conflict and Oda could write a story between the Vinsmokes and Avalo Pizarro (corrupt king from North Blue).

On the other hand, Prometheus should be in Whole Cake. I see no reason for Big Mom to re-use the soul within him, she doesn't need to.

Jinbe's death is next to impossible unless you want Luffy to be too weak to save the crewmate that helped him overcome his feeling of weakness for letting Ace die by making him remember that he still has his crewmates. That would be sick to the point of bad writing.