Controversial Joy boy planted the seeds of war and oppression for 800 years only for.....few decades of prosperity??

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Was it worth it?

Let's say WG is abolished or reformed at the end, and people will eat as much as they can as per Luffy so it's all utopia

How long will that lasts?

Probably few decades at best and Luffy, Dragon etc all will get old.

No way it could even reach 800 years as it will take immense amount of organized violence to enforce the status quo

THUS , Matter of time till another tyrannical power show up to revive NEO- WG . Endless circle.


So is this extremely long and exhausting battle worth it? Where is the justice of millions killed in these 800 years that will never experience the fruits of their struggle?


@Roo @Logiko @Celestial D. Dragon etc..

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I don’t think there will be true utopia . Pirate and Marine both will exist but Luffy will do is open the barrier of Red line and unite all the blues which will be main goal of the story according to Harley’s text .

The only good side is there won’t be someone like Imu or Celestial dragon who will run and discriminate people .

It’s like a child’s dream but reality will be different that’s why Dragon , Sabo and others will definitely frame rules to protect people from pirate . Marine will fight Pirate that will never change .

 

[Urouge D. Rouge]

bad people rise and fall same as good ones...if you think long after the story and long before ofc there were better and worst times

for this story, joyboy faction goal was to defeat the imu faction

luffys goal is to get his dream in a very selfish and selfless way

 

[zenox]

Op verse is like 90% submerged in water rn ,
What if after the grand war everything goes back to level 0 …
There will be a ton of resources and also don’t forget how high tech op society would be

 

[Logiko]

Was it worth it?

Let's say WG is abolished or reformed at the end, and people will eat as much as they can as per Luffy so it's all utopia

How long will that lasts?

Probably few decades at best and Luffy, Dragon etc all will get old.

No way it could even reach 800 years as it will take immense amount of organized violence to enforce the status quo

THUS , Matter of time till another tyrannical power show up to revive NEO- WG . Endless circle.


So is this extremely long and exhausting battle worth it? Where is the justice of millions killed in these 800 years that will never experience the fruits of their struggle?


@Roo @Logiko @Celestial D. Dragon etc..

The alternative is not doing anything and live under oppression.

 

[MonsterKaido]

There will always be bad guys.

 

[Date]

It's a fucking manga not real life lol

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

The alternative is not doing anything and live under oppression.

So either resist and still under oppression or not doing anything and live under oppression

 

[Logiko]

So either resist and still under oppression or not doing anything and live under oppression

When you resist an oppression, said oppression has less power over you.

In other word, it's always better to resist than doing nothing.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

When you resist an oppression, said oppression has less power over you.

In other word, it's always better to resist than doing nothing.

But if resisting lead to higher and higher oppression?

 

[Logiko]

But if resisting lead to higher and higher oppression?

Oppressors will always tell you that if you resist, they will strike harder. But in reality, they only use your resistance as an excuse to be even worst.

The goal of the oppressors is MORE oppression. So oppressions, if left unchecked, will worsen weither you resist or not. An oppressive system needs an autojustification to stay oppressive and this autojustification pass through more oppression and even more targets. Resisting MIGHT accelerate the process but the alternative is a life of hell.

In the balance, resisting will help you fight and reduce the power of this oppression. So it's always the best thing to do.

The real question is the method you will use to do that and the support you will gain through it.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Oppressors will always tell you that if you resist, they will strike harder. But in reality, they only use your resistance as an excuse to be even worst.

The goal of the oppressors is MORE oppression. So oppressions, if left unchecked, will worsen weither you resist or not. An oppressive system needs an autojustification to stay oppressive and this autojustification pass through more oppression and even more targets. Resisting MIGHT accelerate the process but the alternative is a life of hell.

In the balance, resisting will help you fight and reduce the power of this oppression. So it's always the best thing to do.

The real question is the method you will use to do that and the support you will gain through it.

Most will prefer living like a slave than getting killed en mass

 

[Logiko]

Most will prefer living like a slave than getting killed en mass

Indeed. Resistances are created by a minority of people.

A lot of French people love to forget it, but most of France never dared to resist the invader. Only a few % was courageous enough to stand their ground.

We can't really be mad at people for not wanting to put their lives or the lives or their loved one in danger. It's human after all. But we need to realize that fighting back is a necessity to avoid living in even more hell.

 

[DenifClock]

Was it worth it?

Let's say WG is abolished or reformed at the end, and people will eat as much as they can as per Luffy so it's all utopia

How long will that lasts?

Probably few decades at best and Luffy, Dragon etc all will get old.

No way it could even reach 800 years as it will take immense amount of organized violence to enforce the status quo

THUS , Matter of time till another tyrannical power show up to revive NEO- WG . Endless circle.


So is this extremely long and exhausting battle worth it? Where is the justice of millions killed in these 800 years that will never experience the fruits of their struggle?


@Roo @Logiko @Celestial D. Dragon etc..

Wars won't happen anymore, because Vegapunk's dream will come true, people will have access to the anicent energy, meaning there won't be wars for resources.
This is what the mural was talking about, I recommend checking out Morj's video about breaking it down.
There won't be wars anymore at the end of One Piece and after that

 

[Roo]

Live free or die

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Indeed. Resistances are created by a minority of people.

A lot of French people love to forget it, but most of France never dared to resist the invader. Only a few % was courageous enough to stand their ground.

We can't really be mad at people for not wanting to put their lives or the lives or their loved one in danger. It's human after all. But we need to realize that fighting back is a necessity to avoid living in even more hell.

But what if fighting back causes extinction?

 

[Konstantis]

This is why Garp decided to became a Marrine and stay as Marrine

 

[Logiko]

But what if fighting back causes extinction?

Unless everybody die.... Resistance never dies !

 

[Rumble]

Peace is not a gift, it is a responsibility.

Those who live in peace - real peace - and those who inherit it have a duty to it preserve it for the next generation.

That is why war remains inevitable, because a peace taken for granted is a peace that cannot last.

Much of One Piece is about dreams and inherited wills passing on from one generation to the next. That is what Vegapunk believed to be the nature of Devil Fruits and I don’t think it’s a coincidence.

In the end, I believe the nature of Luffy’s dream will tie into the very essence of this.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Unless everybody die.... Resistance never dies !

So majority need to risk extinction because 2-3% want to play hero and saviour