Questions & Mysteries Judge, Sanji and the Beast Pirates

#1
I got myself thinking about how the fact of Queen knowing Judge will play out soon in the manga, (along with Sanji probably?), im theorizing that there is something related to King based on what was presented about his powers until now.



(Note that Queen isn't with his mechanic arm during the Oden vs Kaido flashback, in the anime for example)
Queen showed to know Judge, and Judge only, "Judge's son" could be any of Sanji's siblings since they have Vinsmoke on their namesand they are part of Germa at the moment, their powers are all due to Judge's influence.

Now if we bring this into the "lineage factor" stuff that was presented chapter 1007 it's possible to link this with the fact that Vegapunk and Judge actually worked together and both are very high skilled cientists clearly, the Raid Suits for example, top notch technology from the One Piece world, are a result of Judge's work after passing a part of his life learning along with Vegapunk, who worked to the World Government, the thing is that the mentioning of Judge may have a bigger (and very especific) influence on the Beast Pirates than people actually think...

The SMILEs especifically also has a LOT to do with Vegapunk and the Beast Pirates, so it's easy to link these, just as it is easy to link Judge and Vegapunk



Keep in mind that King and Queen are together for a long time, since Oden vs Kaido they already were Kaido's Commanders, Jack wasn't even dreaming of becoming what he is now (especially cuz he was a child)

So my point is, i think King "The Wildfire" has something to do with Sanji's abilities to generate fire, actually it's like Sanji always had something to do with that:




I think that Judge had contact with the Beast Pirates, Queen is the one who mentions him cuz he is actually the scientist there, he not only creates lethal viruses that only top notch Doctors like Chopper can cure (with the antidote from Queen, and also a lot of help i must say) but he also implemented robotic parts on his body, despite being a very powerful Ancient Zoan he shots destructive Laser Beams from his mouth, much more destructive than what Pacifistas used to do, and yeah the Pacifistas were also designed by Vegapunk.



In my opinion, King actually may had contact with Judge, much before Judge himself have his children and bring Germa to what it is and how it looks now, Sanji got genetically modified by Judge with King's unique race properties somehow, thats why he generates fire by will for apparently no especific reason, just like King is the "Wildfire", Sanji also works similarly.

What if Sanji already tried to use Diable Jambe in the Raid Suit but failed?
He will not only need to learn about and train/fight more with Raid Suit itself but also learn more about his own natural powers, how Diable Jambe works and how he can evolve with it in order to get stronger.


Do you guys think it makes sense or it's a stretch? It may be shown to be complete bullshit soon, but i think something like that needs to play out.
Otherwise it will be pretty lame cuz the Vinsmoke thing was resolved in WCI, is Queen somehow supposed to piss off Sanji after Sanji saved his whole biological family willingly? Just for them end up fighting? Doesn't seems kinda pointless/redundant for you?

This whole "scientific" thing running around Judge and Vegapunk with the Beast Pirates, Queen's robotic body and scientific acknowledgment + King's unique race properties NEEDS to mean something more relevant to the plot in an arc of the caliber of Wano, especially cuz im sure we barely see their true powers


 
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TheAncientCenturion

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#5
I mean it's not impossible but I find it very hamfisted for Sanji to have King's DNA in him. I don't really see the pay off besides a cheap excuse as to why DJ is what it is.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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#7
Not just an excuse, but an explanation for Sanji himself, and maybe a potential fight between Sanji and King
But the fight should probably be between someone who has a history with the Vinsmoke family, if lineage factor is a thing we're focusing on. And a two-fer, someone who fights with scientific gadgets like Sanji is now.
 
#9
But the fight should probably be between someone who has a history with the Vinsmoke family, if lineage factor is a thing we're focusing on. And a two-fer, someone who fights with scientific gadgets like Sanji is now.
There is nothing that much "hi-tech" looking in the Raid Suit honestly, especially compared on how Franky or Queen looks for example, it just gives you more durability, speed (due to the boosters), the flying potential and a special power (invisibility). The rest is basicly Sanji's raw strength, speed, and his fighting style, (aerial included) and haki.
 
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