Current Events Kaido is stronger than Lolden and the Sheaths

[The White Crane]

These past current chapters have been shite for Kaido...but people actually are wanking Oden and the Scarrbards more when theyre actually trash.

Kaido's Dragon form is the weakest jobber form a Top Tier can ever get.

- He's slow af
- He's big af
- He has no range with his limbs
- He only has one attack that can be countered in many ways.

Ffs let the Low Trio and Mid Trio jump him....and he will be in a worst state than hes in with the scarbards.

Kaido wont be able to do shit until he gets into Base or even maybe Hybrid. I doubt he'll even need Hybrid tbh. But anyways its obvious Oda is nerfing tf outta him for the sake of tension. And now people are taking the bait and wanking the Sheaths.

People jumping to conclusions cause a couple of mid tiers can jump Kaido in his slowest weakest form....



Lets recap......

What happened after Oden landed his hit....Kaido reverted to base and oneshotted him.

What happened after Luffy landed all his hits.....Kaido reverted to base and oneshotted him.

Like I dont like how retarded Oda is making Kaido...like which Zoan even fight in Full Zoan form. What chance would Lucci have against Luffy, if he was in Full Zoan form the entire fight. The fight aint fair cause Oda is just nerfing him.

- Anyways I feel like this is the reason why Oda is making not only Kaido, but the entire Beast Pirates into retards. The true reason why all of these dudes fight in Full Zoan is cause Oda doesnt want to reveal their Hyrbids yet. Hes probably saving it for the SH fights. But he also doesnt want them to fight in Base since it'd be lame if they didnt use their DFs in a fight.

So all thats left is to make them fight in Full Zoan. Which the weakest and shittest form anyways.


Anyways how this shit is gonna end is Kaido going into base and oneshotting all of these fools. Or Kaido finally revealing hie Hyrbrid....and oneshotting them. Either way they finally landed their scar in Oden....and finally mirrorer him. And symbolic potrayall...yada yada... who tf cares.

Kaido is oneshotting them next chapter.

While I doubt Kaido will literally one shot them next chapter, don't you think the progression of Kaido vs The Scabbards are similar to the progression of the alliance's attack on Big Mom during the wedding?

During the wedding, at first, everything went so smoothly for the alliance, despite the occasional hiccups thanks to Katakuri, and they even achieved the first objective of theirs (breaking Mother Caramel's picture and showing it to Big Mom, which led to her meltdown). And then they entered the final phase of their plan with Cesar's rockets. But right before the rockets hit, we had a flashback to what made Big Mom the way she is now, and everything went to shit for the alliance before an outside force (the bomb) saved them.

The current fight feels like that, imo.

At the moment, everything is going smoothly for The Scabbards despite the occasional hiccups thanks to Jack, and they even achieved their first objective (dominating the fight against Kaido). The Scabbards delivering Togen Totsuka is their version of showing Big Mom the broken picture of Mother Caramel, imo. Kaido is likely to recoil after this, in a position which leaves him open for one final attack that is planned to finish him off, but we might finally have a flashback to his past before he eventually regains his senses the way Big Mom did and eventually turns the table. The Scabbards will then be at death's doorstep before an outside force (Luffy) arrives to bail them out.

Just my two cents.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

While I doubt Kaido will literally one shot them next chapter, don't you think the progression of Kaido vs The Scabbards are similar to the progression of the alliance's attack on Big Mom during the wedding?

During the wedding, at first, everything went so smoothly for the alliance, despite the occasional hiccups thanks to Katakuri, and they even achieved the first objective of theirs (breaking Mother Caramel's picture and showing it to Big Mom, which led to her meltdown). And then they entered the final phase of their plan with Cesar's rockets. But right before the rockets hit, we had a flashback to what made Big Mom the way she is now, and everything went to shit for the alliance before an outside force (the bomb) saved them.

The current fight feels like that, imo.

At the moment, everything is going smoothly for The Scabbards despite the occasional hiccups thanks to Jack, and they even achieved their first objective (dominating the fight against Kaido). The Scabbards delivering Togen Totsuka is their version of showing Big Mom the broken picture of Mother Caramel, imo. Kaido is likely to recoil after this, in a position which leaves him open for one final attack that is planned to finish him off, but we might finally have a flashback to his past before he eventually regains his senses the way Big Mom did and eventually turns the table. The Scabbards will then be at death's doorstep before an outside force (Luffy) arrives to bail them out.

Just my two cents.

yup
the scabbards have to start going down for luffy to step in
I could actually see next chap be the turn around

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

yup
the scabbards have to start going down for luffy to step in
I could actually see next chap be the turn around

for a moment, i thought finalbeta is already back. You got me there

 

[Chrono]

his defense is much better in his dragon form I bet
his human form makes him a much better fighter esp offensively
scabbards are cuttin him in either form
the difference is, in his human form
he doesnt just stand there like an idiot. he could actually fight back rather than spitting flame balls all day.

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and "lolden" wasnt trash
split seconds could determine critical fight
if any top tier had a free swing at the other persons head,
who do you think wins the fight .

in a fair battle 20 yrs ago
oden had the tools to take down kaido
and now
am sure its nothing less than a high diff fight.
kaido still doesnt hold the scabbards in high regard
but oden?
the respect is still pretty evident.

How is his defence better in Full Dragon form. His scales barely add to his durability. He's still getting cut and cleaved like a mofo. At the very least he could defend with his arms and Club in his base.

20 years ago Kaido undereatimated Oden abd he landed a cheapshot. Be real if Kaido was in Base and was actually wabting to fight....would the same thing happen ? No it wouldnt.


Kaido is very careless since he believes he's invulnerable. Thats the truth to his character. He believes he cant be hurt.....thus he he'll just leave himself open.

 

[Ravagerblade]

for a moment, i thought finalbeta is already back. You got me there

TBH, anybody would just by looking at the avatar. It's ok though.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

How is his defence better in Full Dragon form. His scales barely add to his durability. He's still getting cut and cleaved like a mofo. At the very least he could defend with his arms and Club in his base.

20 years ago Kaido undereatimated Oden abd he landed a cheapshot. Be real if Kaido was in Base and was actually wabting to fight....would the same thing happen ? No it wouldnt.


Kaido is very careless since he believes he's invulnerable. Thats the truth to his character. He believes he cant be hurt.....thus he he'll just leave himself open.

according to luffy
his scales are whats so hard to bypass
just quoting manga here

oden cheapshot?
not this shit again.

he clashes with kaido in base before orochi stepped in with the hostages prior to their final clash mate . oden then had to wait five years for them to clash again
gets hit with a boro breadth
jumps up in kaido's view
literally right in fron of kaido
cuts him up
sees his "son "
looks away
kaido takes a free swing at his head. awfully funny how you view oden when kaido as he's getting murked is still wanking him.

 

[Chrono]

according to luffy
his scales are whats so hard to bypass
just quoting manga here

oden cheapshot?
not this shit again.

he clashes with kaido in base before orochi stepped in with the hostages prior to their final clash mate . oden then had to wait five years for them to clash again
gets hit with a boro breadth
jumps up in kaido's view
literally right in fron of kaido
cuts him up
sees his "son "
looks away
kaido takes a free swing at his head. awfully funny how you view oden when kaido as he's getting murked is still wanking him.

Thats bullshit. Since G4 couldnt hurt Kaido's base body. So obviously Luffy is just talking about Kaido's whole durability as scales. Its not like he says his durability increases when he goes Dragon Mode.

I'll never agree that Kaido saw him. Thats just a bullshit speculation.

Kaido is shown facing the other way preparing a Boro Breath. And Oden cuts him Diagonally. No proof is shown that Kaido actually saw him. All people have is that poorly interperted half panel of Kaido preparing Boro Breath....even though truth is that panel only shows the front view of that first panel to his side.

The way Oden landed his hit is either diagonally or straightforward. Either way doesnt matter since Oda doesnt really have any consistency with chereography of fights.

Example:

( Luffy dodges and goes above, then lands the hit from underneath him)

Oden couldve easily ran in front. But Oden wouldve been underneath him and in his blindspot. Either way panels didnt show any acknowledgement....because if they did Kaido wouldve shown a panel of fear before Oden lands his hit.

Example:

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Thats bullshit. Since G4 couldnt hurt Kaido's base body. So obviously Luffy is just talking about Kaido's whole durability as scales. Its not like he says his durability increases when he goes Dragon Mode.

I'll never agree that Kaido saw him. Thats just a bullshit speculation.

Kaido is shown facing the other way preparing a Boro Breath. And Oden cuts him Diagonally. No proof is shown that Kaido actually saw him. All people have is that poorly interperted half panel of Kaido preparing Boro Breath....even though truth is that panel only shows the front view of that first panel to his side.

The way Oden landed his hit is either diagonally or straightforward. Either way doesnt matter since Oda doesnt really have any consistency with chereography of fights.

Example:

( Luffy dodges and goes above, then lands the hit from underneath him)

Oden couldve easily ran in front. But Oden wouldve been underneath him and in his blindspot. Either way panels didnt show any acknowledgement....because if they did Kaido wouldve shown a panel of fear before Oden lands his hit.

Example:

dont care too much to go back and forth on this
luffy says his scales are whats hard to bypass
which implies his durability can be attributed to his scales.
in anycase " human form is more durable than zoan form" at this point is not even supposed to be an argument. its ridiculous.
at the point of contact oden jumps right in front of kaido
this isnt oden using a distraction, blocking his coo, this is oden going at kaido head on and cutting him up. you are free to describe it however you want at this point.
sure his durability in human form might not be weaker than dragon form, I will argue his overall defense is tho. kind of the point of eating these df and transformations. the full zoan form still brings somthing to the table.

sanji cheap shot page one too cause he didnt see him I guess
sanji cheap shot oven and so on
rather than them being literally blitzed
see what you want to see .

 

[Chrono]

dont care too much to go back and forth on this
luffy says his scales are whats hard to bypass
which implies his durability can be attributed to his scales.
in anycase " human form is more durable than zoan form" at this point is not even supposed to be an argument. its ridiculous.
at the point of contact oden jumps right in front of kaido
this isnt oden using a distraction, blocking his coo, this is oden going at kaido head on and cutting him up. you are free to describe it however you want at this point.
sure his durability in human form might not be weaker than dragon form, I will argue his overall defense is tho. kind of the point of eating these df and transformations. the full zoan form still brings somthing to the table.

sanji cheap shot page one too cause he didnt see him I guess
sanji cheap shot oven and so on
rather than them being literally blitzed
see what you want to see .

Is it so hard to believe that he can use his scales in Base. Or that his Base can be made upnof scales. Marco can use his flames in base to heal himself, why cant Kaido use his scales. G4 failed against his Base, when Luffy says "scales" it means whatever Kaido's skin is made from.

I didnt say human form is more durable. I said he can defend better. He can block with his arms and club. He can also use Haki in base.....something im not too sure he can use with Full Zoan. Unless he goes FBH.

No it isnt right in front of Kaido. Its underneath him. Kaido's face is far above when Oden cut him. You think Kaido has eyes on his chest to see Oden ? He didnt see Oden....and it was implied he saw him.

Wait how can you argue his durability not being weaker....but his defence is weaker ? Whay logic does that make. Full Zoan Kaido only has durability for defence ??? Your not making any sense.

It brings absolutely nothing to the table. Boro Breath is a shit attack. All he has is his skin.

 

[Master OF Haki]

These past current chapters have been shite for Kaido...but people actually are wanking Oden and the Scarrbards more when theyre actually trash.

Kaido's Dragon form is the weakest jobber form a Top Tier can ever get.

- He's slow af
- He's big af
- He has no range with his limbs
- He only has one attack that can be countered in many ways.

Ffs let the Low Trio and Mid Trio jump him....and he will be in a worst state than hes in with the scarbards.

Kaido wont be able to do shit until he gets into Base or even maybe Hybrid. I doubt he'll even need Hybrid tbh. But anyways its obvious Oda is nerfing tf outta him for the sake of tension. And now people are taking the bait and wanking the Sheaths.

People jumping to conclusions cause a couple of mid tiers can jump Kaido in his slowest weakest form....



Lets recap......

What happened after Oden landed his hit....Kaido reverted to base and oneshotted him.

What happened after Luffy landed all his hits.....Kaido reverted to base and oneshotted him.

Like I dont like how retarded Oda is making Kaido...like which Zoan even fight in Full Zoan form. What chance would Lucci have against Luffy, if he was in Full Zoan form the entire fight. The fight aint fair cause Oda is just nerfing him.

- Anyways I feel like this is the reason why Oda is making not only Kaido, but the entire Beast Pirates into retards. The true reason why all of these dudes fight in Full Zoan is cause Oda doesnt want to reveal their Hyrbids yet. Hes probably saving it for the SH fights. But he also doesnt want them to fight in Base since it'd be lame if they didnt use their DFs in a fight.

So all thats left is to make them fight in Full Zoan. Which the weakest and shittest form anyways.


Anyways how this shit is gonna end is Kaido going into base and oneshotting all of these fools. Or Kaido finally revealing hie Hyrbrid....and oneshotting them. Either way they finally landed their scar in Oden....and finally mirrorer him. And symbolic potrayall...yada yada... who tf cares.

Kaido is oneshotting them next chapter.

Deep down in my heart I also think so but knowing Oda I'm pessimistic as fuck.

 

[BangOO🍅]

The implication of this text box is Oden > Kaido or Oden = Kaido​

 

[Chrono]

The implication of this text box is Oden > Kaido or Oden = Kaido​

How does imply anything. If anything it further reinforces the notion that Kaido will destroy the Sheaths. Cause if Oden cant do it....no one else from his time can.

 

[Worst]

I think the explanation of that is that Kaido underestimated the scabbards going dragon form which is probably the easiest target on the battlefield, so the scabbards could actually damage him and nerf him for Luffy to be able to do sh** when he gets up so in the end Kaido will be like "ohh I made an upsi underestimating these guys".....the scabbards are definitely strong but base form Kaido would have decimated them let's not talk about a potential hybrid form

 

[Chrono]

I think the explanation of that is that Kaido underestimated the scabbards going dragon form which is probably the easiest target on the battlefield, so the scabbards could actually damage him and nerf him for Luffy to be able to do sh** when he gets up so in the end Kaido will be like "ohh I made an upsi underestimating these guys".....the scabbards are definitely strong but base form Kaido would have decimated them let's not talk about a potential hybrid form

Exactly lmao. Unless people here believe The Scarrbards individually are > G4. Which we all know its not true.

Base Kaido mauls them.

 

[duckman]

These past current chapters have been shite for Kaido...but people actually are wanking Oden and the Scarrbards more when theyre actually trash.

Kaido's Dragon form is the weakest jobber form a Top Tier can ever get.

- He's slow af
- He's big af
- He has no range with his limbs
- He only has one attack that can be countered in many ways.

Ffs let the Low Trio and Mid Trio jump him....and he will be in a worst state than hes in with the scarbards.

Kaido wont be able to do shit until he gets into Base or even maybe Hybrid. I doubt he'll even need Hybrid tbh. But anyways its obvious Oda is nerfing tf outta him for the sake of tension. And now people are taking the bait and wanking the Sheaths.

People jumping to conclusions cause a couple of mid tiers can jump Kaido in his slowest weakest form....



Lets recap......

What happened after Oden landed his hit....Kaido reverted to base and oneshotted him.

What happened after Luffy landed all his hits.....Kaido reverted to base and oneshotted him.

Like I dont like how retarded Oda is making Kaido...like which Zoan even fight in Full Zoan form. What chance would Lucci have against Luffy, if he was in Full Zoan form the entire fight. The fight aint fair cause Oda is just nerfing him.

- Anyways I feel like this is the reason why Oda is making not only Kaido, but the entire Beast Pirates into retards. The true reason why all of these dudes fight in Full Zoan is cause Oda doesnt want to reveal their Hyrbids yet. Hes probably saving it for the SH fights. But he also doesnt want them to fight in Base since it'd be lame if they didnt use their DFs in a fight.

So all thats left is to make them fight in Full Zoan. Which the weakest and shittest form anyways.


Anyways how this shit is gonna end is Kaido going into base and oneshotting all of these fools. Or Kaido finally revealing hie Hyrbrid....and oneshotting them. Either way they finally landed their scar in Oden....and finally mirrorer him. And symbolic potrayall...yada yada... who tf cares.

Kaido is oneshotting them next chapter.

Choppers Full Zoan form >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His Hybrid.

Lucci's Full Zoan is a tiny ass Leopard.

Kaido has a fucking dragon that breathes fire and thunder. Plus, he started in Base and got shanked, remember?

 

[Chrono]

Choppers Full Zoan form >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His Hybrid.

Lucci's Full Zoan is a tiny ass Leopard.

Kaido has a fucking dragon that breathes fire and thunder. Plus, he started in Base and got shanked, remember?

That was a sneak attack and he underestimated them. He literally said their swords cant penetrate him....so he let them stab him. His Base still has far better feats than his Dragon Form that keeps on getting jobbed up.

 

[HA001]

That was a sneak attack and he underestimated them. He literally said their swords cant penetrate him....so he let them stab him. His Base still has far better feats than his Dragon Form that keeps on getting jobbed up.

If he was in base hed be dead. Theres nine vs one. Neko already disarmed him with ease.
Wait lmfao his clubs below them all aint it ?.
So wtf is base kaido gonna do

 

[Chrono]

If he was in base hed be dead. Theres nine vs one. Neko already disarmed him with ease.
Wait lmfao his clubs below them all aint it ?.
So wtf is base kaido gonna do

You seriously think his Haki fists arent enough to destroy them all ?

This man oneshotted G4. Have yall got memory loss or something. If he lands one hit on each of them its lights out.

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

You seriously think his Haki fists arent enough to destroy them all ?

This man oneshotted G4. Have yall got memory loss or something. If he lands one hit on each of them its lights out.

LoL no, not even in Two Piece

 

[Chrono]

I was right as usual