Versus Battle Kaido of the 100 Beasts vs The Jūbi

[soheilhazrat]

Rofl,if you make it speed equal a lot will have trouble with Itachi and Obito thanks to Genjutsu and Kamui Intang,yes.But most of the cast gets trashed by top-tiers.The likes of Doffy is enough to defeat Hashirama without much trouble.

What the fuck did i just read

 

[Steven]

Madara casually destroyed 2 mountains dozens of miles away with just the air pressure from one swing of his Susanoo blade

Awesome.What did you guys have with your mountainlevel shit?Mountainlevel was Pre-SA stuff made by Kuma.Doffy is 1 digit PT and 0.419C with LS reactions.
https://outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php?view=article&id=591&catid=8
(178) One Piece Calcs: CT123 Edition | Page 2 | FanVerse
Hashiramas Mokuton just scales to KURAMAS shitty 15 TTs Bijuudama
(177) Naruto Calcs: Waka Edition | Page 3 | FanVerse
Doffy can just blitz and chops hashiramas head of.

Hashirama beat Madara and Kurama at the same time.

This version of Madara would also lose against Doffy lol.Hows that helping your argument?And Pre-EoS Kurama not amped by Narutos RS Chakra is also not a big deal.

Its largely accepted that OP High-Tiers>Nardo Low Top-Tiers/High-Tiers.Not my problem that OP has better feats as Naruto outside the God-Tiers who stomps the OP Verse with a flex

Can’t believe you guys are trusting these clowns

I didnt post a single shit from these retards,wtf are you even talking.That was my post about that "topic"

Lol at VSBW calcs.Not using that shit

Its a matter of fact Naruto top tiers are outdated.WBs Kabutowari and Kaishin fucking shits on any feats Pre-RS Naruto.Its 2023 and some nibbas still living in 2012 by using eyeballing and Bijuudamas by believing they are strong for no reasons at all

@Sentinel isnt it funny how in a OP Forum the OP verse gets downplayed?

 

[NikaInParis]

Looking at the weaponized powerscaling itt

 

[Shiroyru]

Awesome.What did you guys have with your mountainlevel shit?Mountainlevel was Pre-SA stuff made by Kuma.Doffy is 1 digit PT and 0.419C with LS reactions.
https://outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php?view=article&id=591&catid=8
(178) One Piece Calcs: CT123 Edition | Page 2 | FanVerse
Hashiramas Mokuton just scales to KURAMAS shitty 15 TTs Bijuudama
(177) Naruto Calcs: Waka Edition | Page 3 | FanVerse
Doffy can just blitz and chops hashiramas head of.

This version of Madara would also lose against Doffy lol.Hows that helping your argument?And Pre-EoS Kurama not amped by Narutos RS Chakra is also not a big deal.

Its largely accepted that OP High-Tiers>Nardo Low Top-Tiers/High-Tiers.Not my problem that OP has better feats as Naruto outside the God-Tiers who stomps the OP Verse with a flex

I didnt post a single shit from these retards,wtf are you even talking.That was my post about that "topic"

Its a matter of fact Naruto top tiers are outdated.WBs Kabutowari and Kaishin fucking shits on any feats Pre-RS Naruto.Its 2023 and some nibbas still living in 2012 by using eyeballing and Bijuudamas by believing they are strong for no reasons at all

@Sentinel isnt it funny how in a OP Forum the OP verse gets downplayed?

LOL Doflamingo is not at nearly 50% light speed. He would have reached Punk Hazard in less than a second if he could travel that fast.

Wtf are you even talking about with Pre-SA Kuma being mountain level? Ursus Shock is about as big as Oars Jr, who is 50m tall. Mountains are at bare minimum 300m tall, and mountains are much wider than they are tall.

All of these calcs are total nonsense. Just use your eyes

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Looking at the weaponized powerscaling itt

These mfs act like Oda is hiring a geologist to calculate just how powerful WB’s quakes should be

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

LOL Doflamingo is not at nearly 50% light speed. He would have reached Punk Hazard in less than a second if he could travel that fast.

Wtf are you even talking about with Pre-SA Kuma being mountain level? Ursus Shock is about as big as Oars Jr, who is 50m tall. Mountains are at bare minimum 300m tall, and mountains are much wider than they are tall.

All of these calcs are total nonsense. Just use your eyes

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These mfs act like Oda is hiring a geologist to calculate just how powerful WB’s quakes should be

Yeah, I understand the fun of pixel scaling and using deductive reasoning to “figure out” how strong or fast a character is. But it’s always so laughable at the end when you get shit like that. The OP world needs to be the size of the solar system for characters to be light speed.

 

[Sentinel]

Lmao VSBattles lists WB as FTL. Can’t believe you guys are trusting these clowns.

I didnt post a single shit from these retards,wtf are you even talking.That was my post about that "topic"

I mean, WB's feat is even drastically better than that Bajrang Gun calc which VSBW made, so it doesn't really help his case here.

It's easy, they all are free to find fanverse profiles or accepted calcs where Juubi demonstrated better feats than WB's calced feats. Or they can refer to other battleforums if fanverse isn't legit enough.

@Sentinel isnt it funny how in a OP Forum the OP verse gets downplayed?

Yeah, it's quite ironic.

All of these calcs are total nonsense. Just use your eyes

But can you explain to me how destroying a few mountains or devastating landscapes is better than moving tectonic plates which Sickbeard easily demonstrated?

Also, you have to explain why it is nonsense to calc 400000km diameter of the OP world. When was it said that the OP world is exactly the same as us? Hell, Alabasta is comparable to a continent and in comparison to the OP earth, it is just a very, very, very small island in comparison to the Grandline...

LOL Doflamingo is not at nearly 50% light speed. He would have reached Punk Hazard in less than a second if he could travel that fast.

I don't even see the issue here.

Like, Juubidara has a LS attack which Naruto also effortlessly dodged which was some relativistic speed feat iirc. And there are plenty of OP characters capable to react to LS. King even has an attack which was compared to a beam.
Rayleigh legit intercepted Kizaru in the middle of his LS movement.

 

[Shiroyru]

I mean, WB's feat is even drastically better than that Bajrang Gun calc which VSBW made, so it doesn't really help his case here.

It's easy, they all are free to find fanverse profiles or accepted calcs where Juubi demonstrated better feats than WB's calced feats. Or they can refer to other battleforums if fanverse isn't legit enough.



Yeah, it's quite ironic.



But can you explain to me how destroying a few mountains or devastating landscapes is better than moving tectonic plates which Sickbeard easily demonstrated?

Also, you have to explain why it is nonsense to calc 400000km diameter of the OP world. When was it said that the OP world is exactly the same as us? Hell, Alabasta is comparable to a continent and in comparison to the OP earth, it is just a very, very, very small island in comparison to the Grandline...

Dude, the OP would is not 3x the size of Jupiter lol. The SHs traveled over halfway around the world in like a month or two. Alabasta is nowhere near comparable to a continent. Where’d you get that from?

 

[Sentinel]

Dude, the OP would is not 3x the size of Jupiter lol. The SHs traveled over halfway around the world in like a month or two. Alabasta is nowhere near comparable to a continent. Where’d you get that from?

You don't even know how large the OP world truly is, how do you assume how it is ridiculous to assume that this world might be bigger than those of our solar system? "Nah, that ain't likely" isn't really a valid argument tbh.
Do you know the exact travel speed of the Sunny as well? Again, how is this even valid?
Alabasta ain't that large? Bro, it has a river which is 50km in width and it's basically nothing in comparison to the actual country. I can show some calcs but you ain't gonna accept it anyway.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Dude, the OP would is not 3x the size of Jupiter lol. The SHs traveled over halfway around the world in like a month or two. Alabasta is nowhere near comparable to a continent. Where’d you get that from?

There’s a very autistic scaling on Reddit that puts it at about Australia’s size.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Not saying Juubidara losing, just a example how massive op Luffy punch actually is.
Juubidara has a greater control of the Juubi power, perhaps even better durability, yet this is what happen to him after one simple air shockwave(who is not even in million years close to what Luffy show with Bajrung:

If Madara is even fearing these punches, it shows how massive Luffy punch actually is.
Juubi not like Juubidara, he will fall in ashes ones Kaido release Fire Blazing King.

 

[Shiroyru]

You don't even know how large the OP world truly is, how do you assume how it is ridiculous to assume that this world might be bigger than those of our solar system? "Nah, that ain't likely" isn't really a valid argument tbh.
Do you know the exact travel speed of the Sunny as well? Again, how is this even valid?
Alabasta ain't that large? Bro, it has a river which is 50km in width and it's basically nothing in comparison to the actual country. I can show some calcs but you ain't gonna accept it anyway.

How would the Merry/Sunny be traveling that fast?

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

How would the Merry/Sunny be traveling that fast?

Fiction story, in fact we speak about a world with pirates with godlike powers so don´t see any problem with it.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Not saying Juubidara losing, just a example how massive op Luffy punch actually is.
Juubidara has a greater control of the Juubi power, perhaps even better durability, yet this is what happen to him after one simple air shockwave(who is not even in million years close to what Luffy show with Bajrung:

If Madara is even fearing these punches, it shows how massive Luffy punch actually is.
Juubi not like Juubidara, he will fall in ashes ones Kaido release Fire Blazing King.

He breaks a horn and when he is hit by the fists he laughs at the pain and asks Gai if he has anything better lol.

 

[Shiroyru]

Fiction story, in fact we speak about a world with pirates with godlike powers so don´t see any problem with it.

These boats don’t even have engines. They rely on wind sails to move.

What seems more likely to you, that the OP world is roughly the size of our own world, or that Oda randomly decided to make the OP world 3x the size of Jupiter and make regular wooden boats travel at subsonic speed, and he never mentioned these bizarre facts for whatever reason

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

He breaks a horn and when he is hit by the fists he laughs at the pain and asks Gai if he has anything better lol.

Laughing doesn´t mean that it didn´t hurt, you see Madara clearly saying to avoid the attacks because they are that powerful, this was Madara after he took multiple attacks:

Bleeding, damaged, broken horn and exhausted, the point here is that attacks with a simple shockwave did something to him.
Imagine adv CoC in combination of Kaido moveset, that is my point.

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These boats don’t even have engines. They rely on wind sails to move.

What seems more likely to you, that the OP world is roughly the size of our own world, or that Oda randomly decided to make the OP world 3x the size of Jupiter and make regular wooden boats travel at subsonic speed, and he never mentioned these bizarre facts for whatever reason

As I said not having need to be answered,best example how Toko could walk easily in few hours to flower capital from a different region yet Chopper with Olin need days to reach from Kuri to Udon. We have the statement of the 50km river, based on the scale alabasta is a very huge country, it is not a imagined number, it is the one which Oda himself write it in the manga so...

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Laughing doesn´t mean that it didn´t hurt, you see Madara clearly saying to avoid the attacks because they are that powerful, this was Madara after he took multiple attacks:

Bleeding, damaged, broken horn and exhausted, the point here is that attacks with a simple shockwave did something to him.
Imagine adv CoC in combination of Kaido moveset, that is my point.

This is Madara after taking 4 out of 5 of Gai's "steps" consecutively, the final step he took was a direct hit. Madara is eager for more and is not in the least bit intimidated by Gai, he only recognizes the fact that Gai can hurt him now.

What you posted is Madara after an unknown amount of attacks but is relatively unphased for the fight. Especially considering after taking actual serious damage from Night Gai later... It takes less than a panel to reduce the effects significantly.

exhausted

You made this up.

Imagine adv CoC in combination of Kaido moveset, that is my point.

It'd do less than Might Gai's Night Gai which could bend space/time with its speed and power lol.

 

[kurwa]

Kekdo gets fucked in the ass in all rounds

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

This is Madara after taking 4 out of 5 of Gai's "steps" consecutively, the final step he took was a direct hit. Madara is eager for more and is not in the least bit intimidated by Gai, he only recognizes the fact that Gai can hurt him now.

Doesn´t look fresh to me, imagine having the Juubi and yet looking like this, hopeless against Night Guy to a point where defense is the only option to defend himself. You underestimate the feat of Night Guy, if Madara is forced to only fight in defense, you know the attacks been actually very brutal for him. Since in the whole fight Madara couldn´t even land any attack against Guy.

That was a even a worse performance than Doflamingo one against Boundman...

What you posted is Madara after an unknown amount of attacks but is relatively unphased for the fight.

This was Madara after tooking 4-5hits:

Spoiler

Could barely stand right, was damaged badly.
And that is the point, someone with Jubi durability got to this point, damaged badly and hurt, before Guy even used his final attack.
And adv CoC is very special/unique, in case with op attacks it could hurt/damage Juubi badly..

You made this up.

Can barely stand and you say I make this up?

It'd do less than Might Gai's Night Gai which could bend space/time with its speed and power lol.

Naruto and Sasuke used attacks who didn´t bend space/time and yet hurt Juubi durability.
Doesn´t mean much.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

hopeless against Night Guy to a point where defense is the only option to defend himself.

... What else do you use to defend yourself, Playa?

Doesn´t look fresh to me

The most significant damage he sustained is a chipped horn about the size of the last knuckle on your pinkie lol. Definition of fresh.

Since in the whole fight Madara couldn´t even land any attack against Guy.

He literally was about to low diff 8 Gates if it wasn't for Minato's warp to save Gai's life

Spoiler

Madara was allowing himself to get hit instead of actually fighting Might Gai. He was constantly asking for more and made no aggressive moves against Gai after this attack. Why do you think he didn't use more Truth Seeking Orbs or Limbo Clones lol?

This was Madara after tooking 4-5hits:

Spoiler

Could barely stand right, was damaged badly.

Don't be dishonest. Madara has suffered next to no damage here and is egging Gai on. Superficial bleeding and a chipped horn, once again the size of an adult's last knuckle of a pinkie finger chipped off.

Badly damaged for Jubi Jin Madara is what Night Gai did and even then, Madara undoes a majority of the damage in seconds.

Can barely stand and you say I make this up?

You made this up too. Madara hunching over =/= barely standing up.

Naruto and Sasuke used attacks who didn´t bend space/time and yet hurt Juubi durability.
Doesn´t mean much.

You mean the guys boosted by the Sage of Six path's chakra?

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

What else do you use to defend yourself, Playa?

The point is not that he defend himself, it was that he literally not got the opposite to fight back, he was worried about the attacks so much that he changed his fightstyle and avoid to get hit by Guy, with shows that his attacks been enough to hurt Madara to a point to defend himself so much.

The most significant damage he sustained is a chipped horn about the size of the last knuckle on your pinkie lol. Definition of fresh.

Dude can´t barely stand bro:

Clearly not fresh, he was damaged badly.

He literally was about to low diff 8 Gates if it wasn't for Minato's warp to save Gai's life

Madara was allowing himself to get hit instead of actually fighting Might Gai. He was constantly asking for more and made no aggressive moves against Gai after this attack. Why do you think he didn't use more Truth Seeking Orbs or Limbo Clones lol?

He can´t have more truth seeking orbs, the one which Minato took been down, in the end Madara only had one.
And pre shinjuu Madara only could used one Limbo, not four.
Limbo has not the reactionspeed to protect Madara from Night Guy.

Minato part is true but also Guy know he had them as backup, he attack Madara directly because Minato said him to do it.
Otherwise this was the result of the begin of the battle:

Spoiler

Don't be dishonest. Madara has suffered next to no damage here and is egging Gai on. Superficial bleeding and a chipped horn, once again the size of an adult's last knuckle of a pinkie finger chipped off.

As I said he could barely stand, bleeding hard and had a chipped horn(juubi durability), Madara is the one who hype the punch and want to avoid to take attacks, that are not my words but Madara own one, he literally fear to take them a head bro.
Means it damaged him badly otherwise why he should say something like that?

And as I said these shockwaves are nothing in compare what Luffy did with Bajrung gun...

You mean the guys boosted by the Sage of Six path's chakra?

Even before, Juubito was damaged by them without them having six path chakra, sage chakra was enough.
Guy literally make Madara split blood, body damaged by fucking shockwaves without having any six path chakra or sage chakra...