General & Others Kaido redemption arc incoming!!!

#22
Alright… I guess… but then Blackbeard wouldn’t stop there I imagine… Why not grab Robin, kill Luffy and take the Poneglyphs too while he’s there… Like he’s a whole Yonko with potentially half or ALL his commander there with him…
Are Kaido and Big Mom losing yet? Should I also remind you that Blackbeard revealed himself when Whitbeard was almost dead!? Blackbeard will not do anything until Big Mom and Kaido don't pose any threat to him, and by entering Wano his for–and–foremost objective would be to steal Kaido's DF. I can't say anything about ponegliphs or Robin because I don't know what Blackbeard knows, maybe he can read ponegliphs too, who the fuck knows.
 
#28
Okay lets just get into it

Everyone has noticed the lack of stakes in this battle. From Kaido being unable to kill a single person to the seemingly playful nature of the Luffy vs Kaido fight

Well, what if Oda had Kaido fail to kill Kin’emon coz it’d be particularly hard to have a redemption arc for Kaido if he did that?

Stay with me, do you remember the Naruto-Pain situation? Pain thought he was the child of prophecy that Jiraya foretold but turns out it was Naruto who was the prophesized one. Then Pain has a quick redemption arc and dies undoing the mess he caused

See where i’m going? Kaido thought he was Joyboy after King told him about Joyboy changing the world but turns out it was Luffy who would change the world as Joyboy. Then Kaido will have a quick redemption arc and die undoing the mess he caused.

For the death, My guess is Yamato stops the fire demon. Luffy beats kaido but then the island starts to fall coz the flame clouds disappear. Momo holds it up as everyone evacuates somehow. The castle is still burning though and Yamato is also trying to stop the castle fire but she is getting tired and injured. Kaido wakes up having had a change of heart and tells Yamato to save herself and evacuate. Momo is also tired now trying to push the island back and Kaido tells him to let it go, he will carry the island back himself. Kaido flies the island PLUS the explosives as the castle is burning all the way back until he comes across the CP-0 fleet that has come to take over wano. Kaido shouts “LUFFY WILL BE PIRATE KING” and drops the island on the entire CP-0 fleet with the explosives just starting to go off and BOOM. Kaido dies inside Onigashima destroying most of the CP-0 fleet that they retreat.

Of course somewhere along the way, we must have had the kaido flashback explaining this turn and all that.

Does this sound cringey? Yes. did that ever stop Oda before? No.
Cringey or not depends on storytelling imo. Kaidou can have a change of heart after fighting Luffy and recognize something about him. That if, Luffy showed something special by his personality, or world vision, or gradual mental development that is depicted throughout the fight, or creativity and unshakable belief, whatever but if only Oda maxes out the storytelling, strength, emotional weight, and visionary stuff from Luffy.

And then Kaidou can change his perspective all he wants. He can throw Onigashima away with his barehands, he can die providing Luffy's escape route and protecting him from 3 invading admirals at once, he can send final message to Luffy to inherit his will: The World of Violence that must happen in order to topple Imu, he can narrate the tale of Joy Boy as his farewell as Uranus rains down destruction upon his permanently-weakened and defeated body, he can do many things.
 
#29
And where do you leave Big Mom?
She goes back to Totoland with her kids to lick her wounds
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Are Kaido and Big Mom losing yet? Should I also remind you that Blackbeard revealed himself when Whitbeard was almost dead!? Blackbeard will not do anything until Big Mom and Kaido don't pose any threat to him, and by entering Wano his for–and–foremost objective would be to steal Kaido's DF. I can't say anything about ponegliphs or Robin because I don't know what Blackbeard knows, maybe he can read ponegliphs too, who the fuck knows.
@Master OF Haki
You are talking aboutBlackbeard arriving to kill Kaido, POST war right? Like after the alliance has beaten both yonko, Blackbeard swoops in to kill Kaido right?

aren’t the alliance still down and out at that point? Why wouldn’t Blackbeard try to kill Luffy right there and then? He’s also down isn’t he?
 
#30
Stay with me, do you remember the Naruto-Pain situation? Pain thought he was the child of prophecy that Jiraya foretold but turns out it was Naruto who was the prophesized one. Then Pain has a quick redemption arc and dies undoing the mess he caused

See where i’m going? Kaido thought he was Joyboy after King told him about Joyboy changing the world but turns out it was Luffy who would change the world as Joyboy. Then Kaido will have a quick redemption arc and die undoing the mess he caused.
:believe:

For the death, My guess is Yamato stops the fire demon. Luffy beats kaido but then the island starts to fall coz the flame clouds disappear. Momo holds it up as everyone evacuates somehow. The castle is still burning though and Yamato is also trying to stop the castle fire but she is getting tired and injured. Kaido wakes up having had a change of heart and tells Yamato to save herself and evacuate. Momo is also tired now trying to push the island back and Kaido tells him to let it go, he will carry the island back himself. Kaido flies the island PLUS the explosives as the castle is burning all the way back until he comes across the CP-0 fleet that has come to take over wano. Kaido shouts “LUFFY WILL BE PIRATE KING” and drops the island on the entire CP-0 fleet with the explosives just starting to go off and BOOM. Kaido dies inside Onigashima destroying most of the CP-0 fleet that they retreat.
:odenugh:
 
#33
She goes back to Totoland with her kids to lick her wounds
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@Master OF Haki
You are talking aboutBlackbeard arriving to kill Kaido, POST war right? Like after the alliance has beaten both yonko, Blackbeard swoops in to kill Kaido right?

aren’t the alliance still down and out at that point? Why wouldn’t Blackbeard try to kill Luffy right there and then? He’s also down isn’t he?
There is a theory that she goes to Elbaf.
 
#36
Okay lets just get into it

Everyone has noticed the lack of stakes in this battle. From Kaido being unable to kill a single person to the seemingly playful nature of the Luffy vs Kaido fight

Well, what if Oda had Kaido fail to kill Kin’emon coz it’d be particularly hard to have a redemption arc for Kaido if he did that?

Stay with me, do you remember the Naruto-Pain situation? Pain thought he was the child of prophecy that Jiraya foretold but turns out it was Naruto who was the prophesized one. Then Pain has a quick redemption arc and dies undoing the mess he caused

See where i’m going? Kaido thought he was Joyboy after King told him about Joyboy changing the world but turns out it was Luffy who would change the world as Joyboy. Then Kaido will have a quick redemption arc and die undoing the mess he caused.

For the death, My guess is Yamato stops the fire demon. Luffy beats kaido but then the island starts to fall coz the flame clouds disappear. Momo holds it up as everyone evacuates somehow. The castle is still burning though and Yamato is also trying to stop the castle fire but she is getting tired and injured. Kaido wakes up having had a change of heart and tells Yamato to save herself and evacuate. Momo is also tired now trying to push the island back and Kaido tells him to let it go, he will carry the island back himself. Kaido flies the island PLUS the explosives as the castle is burning all the way back until he comes across the CP-0 fleet that has come to take over wano. Kaido shouts “LUFFY WILL BE PIRATE KING” and drops the island on the entire CP-0 fleet with the explosives just starting to go off and BOOM. Kaido dies inside Onigashima destroying most of the CP-0 fleet that they retreat.

Of course somewhere along the way, we must have had the kaido flashback explaining this turn and all that.

Does this sound cringey? Yes. did that ever stop Oda before? No.
:watchout:
 
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