Character Discussion Kaido Spent His Whole Life Making An Army Weaker Than The One Imu Made In 5 Seconds

#42
I really think Oda kinda fumbled with the Smile devil fruit concept. Like, they never felt like a buff. In many ways they were an active nerf.

But still, Imu built different so no shit they perform better than that dogshit knock off devil fruit army concept.
You are underestimating zoan power! Hippos are strong!:endthis:
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But Imu is way better agree
 
#43
You are underestimating zoan power! Hippos are strong!:endthis:
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But Imu is way better agree
Hippos are strong, but if you got a Hippos mouth sprouting from your chest that is not a buff.

If you are lucky and JUST get the best of the best traits in the perfect place? Fair enough but as Oda shows that shit is far less likely than you ending up horribly nerfed.

Like, have you SEEN how Killer would have ended up if his smile fruit worked? My man would have been nerfed to be weaker than his Pre-Skip power. Which, lets be real the fact Smiles also sometimes just do not work and make you a constantly giggling person who cant swim is a major indication how ass they are.
 
#45
The Wano Alliance would've lost if not for Tama.
The Wano Alliance had plot armor, if Tama did not save their ass Oda would have just had Kaido accidentally collateral diff 90% of his army while fighting Luffy or some shit like that lets be real.

As for Kaido trying, he sure did but gotta admit it is funny as fuck that if Kaido event went to the Holy Land and tried shit Imu would have legit turned everybody but Kaido and perhaps Big Mom if she joins him into his demon soldiers. Kaido would have legit delivered Imu his army he spent lord only knows how long building up on a silver platter.
 
#47
Hippos are strong, but if you got a Hippos mouth sprouting from your chest that is not a buff.

If you are lucky and JUST get the best of the best traits in the perfect place? Fair enough but as Oda shows that shit is far less likely than you ending up horribly nerfed.

Like, have you SEEN how Killer would have ended up if his smile fruit worked? My man would have been nerfed to be weaker than his Pre-Skip power. Which, lets be real the fact Smiles also sometimes just do not work and make you a constantly giggling person who cant swim is a major indication how ass they are.
Fair but Kaido was giving Smiles to literal fodders, he never delivered such a shit DF to Tobi roppo and his top officers, it was easy way to power up his fodders, low tier pirates.
It was Orochi who tortured Killer and made him eat Smile.
 
#50
The Wano Alliance had plot armor, if Tama did not save their ass Oda would have just had Kaido accidentally collateral diff 90% of his army while fighting Luffy or some shit like that lets be real.

As for Kaido trying, he sure did but gotta admit it is funny as fuck that if Kaido event went to the Holy Land and tried shit Imu would have legit turned everybody but Kaido and perhaps Big Mom if she joins him into his demon soldiers. Kaido would have legit delivered Imu his army he spent lord only knows how long building up on a silver platter.
That would've been better for the smiles.

Oda hyped them only to get negged diffed by Tama.

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#51
Fair but Kaido was giving Smiles to literal fodders, he never delivered such a shit DF to Tobi roppo and his top officers, it was easy way to power up his fodders, low tier pirates.
It was Orochi who tortured Killer and made him eat Smile.
A fodder in Kaidos crew in my mind is still a stupid concept. Like, a fodder no name crew member of Kaido should probably still be like Pre-Skip Luffy level or something. They should not be so disposable that risking them to all turn into weird freaks at worst who can no longer fight is worth it.

The Smile fruit concept would work for me if they were all like Momo and besides some color being weird they legit got just zoan powers.

But the way they work? Nah, nine times out of ten it will just be a nerf.
 
#53
A fodder in Kaidos crew in my mind is still a stupid concept. Like, a fodder no name crew member of Kaido should probably still be like Pre-Skip Luffy level or something. They should not be so disposable that risking them to all turn into weird freaks at worst who can no longer fight is worth it.

The Smile fruit concept would work for me if they were all like Momo and besides some color being weird they legit got just zoan powers.

But the way they work? Nah, nine times out of ten it will just be a nerf.
Nah pre skip Luffy bullies this fodders, he was beating warlords and strongest Hancock's subordinates even pre skip.
Fodder with zoan Smile power> fodder. Actually Kaido's Smile gifters are shown stronger force than "Waiters" without Smile.
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Can't believe we are seriously talking about Smile users:risiflip:
 
#59
Some still don't get smiles were meant for random foot soldiers.

They're not meant for elite people. It's basically take your random Marine foot soldier but give him that DF and he becomes 2-3x stronger.

Then basically have that 10k over. That was the plan. 500 was cut short by Luffy/Law.
 
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