Powers & Abilities Kaido's 7 Defeats ,5 Revealed this Chapter so who are the last 2 ?

#23
Bro stop making up your own story. Oden loss and admitted he lose. Kaido never said he lose to Oden, he mad he didn't get to finish the fight.
What the hell are u talking about. These are obvious implications that Oda is putting at crucial scenes. Don't be mad at me for reading between the lines.

The outside world thinks Kaido defeated Oden fair and square that's why WB was cautious, but we all know better just like the narrator.

Don't come at me if it gets pretty much confirmed that Oden is one of the losses
 
#24
Nah, those seems like random numbers at this point, probably. Since there are many things arleady debunked from that intro. For example, the thing him challenging the Yonko.
-The term "Yonko" appears after Roger, so BM, Kaido fimself, WB, Shanks.
-WB didn't want to make war with Kaido so neither they face each other at some point after Roger death. WB no.
-BM didn't see him in decadeS. BM no.
So he only challenged Shanks, maybe.
1 of 3.

And then in that same intro it was implied that the Yonko couldn't kill him which is false since WB didn't fight against him (not as a Yonko). Actually WB words implied that he would win and achieve the revenge for Oden.
Same with BM.

And with this last chapter it is confirmed that his skin is above average, but not that awesome, that's all. He is susceptible to blades like any other, but above average ofc since Killer and Zoro's attacks are like mosquito bites. But is not that impressive, many characters tanked good slash attacks from other powerhouses. Luffy tanked direct Rankyakus from Lucci too or Zoro only took superficial damage from Mr.1, etc.
 
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#25
What the hell are u talking about. These are obvious implications that Oda is putting at crucial scenes. Don't be mad at me for reading between the lines.

The outside world thinks Kaido defeated Oden fair and square that's why WB was cautious, but we all know better just like the narrator.

Don't come at me if it gets pretty much confirmed that Oden is one of the losses
Once again stop making up your own story. Oden admitted he lose and Kaido never said he lost to Oden. This is a Pirate, don't matter if he cheats. Luffy cheats all the time. You think it matters if the sccabards and the SN is currently jumping Kaido right now. Lmao 🤣 nobody cares
 
#27
Once again stop making up your own story. Oden admitted he lose and Kaido never said he lost to Oden. This is a Pirate, don't matter if he cheats. Luffy cheats all the time. You think it matters if the sccabards and the SN is currently jumping Kaido right now. Lmao 🤣 nobody cares
Dude, Kaido is someone who takes honour in being the strongest. He literally killed the hag because she threw shade at their 1v1 and literally apologised to Oden before killing him. Cry as much you want, Kaido doesn't consider it a win, so I'd rather say it's you who should stop making up his own fanfic and stick to the manga.
 
#29
In his introduction Chapter in 795 , Kaido was said to have took 7 Defeats and in this Chapter we got to see potentiel 5 of these 7


- Rocks D. Xebec
- Edward Newgate
- Gol D. Roger
- Kozuki Oden
- Shanks


This puts a lot of questions , on who Kaido fought cause we know he hasn't met BM for example in ages and we know from MF that top tiers barely meet so ppl like :

- Sakazuki
- Garp
- Sengoku
- Rayleigh
- Gaban
- Mihawk
- Big Mom

Might be simply that they hadn't fought or Oda is leaving the last 2 for a reveal or something , thoughts ?
his defeats prob include him in his younger days but those listed there all have the 3rd level of advanced COA this is what implied there
Prob Rayleigh, Mihawk and others have it too
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WB didn't want to make war with Kaido so neither they face each other at some point after Roger death. WB no.
-BM didn't see him in decadeS. BM no.
So he only challenged Shanks, maybe.
1 of 3.
Thats what it looks like but he challenged the yonko singlehandly so he prob attacked WB and BM before 15 years ago and then ceased to do it then attacked Shanks in the last 6 years
 
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Jo_Ndule

#32
Kaido has been undefeated for 20 years 1 v 1
Prime kaido has never lost a solo battle
Oden already told you... nobody would beat him for 20 years

His Ls came when he was an apprentice , rookie and supernova
 
#36
For the same reason that WB didn't defeat anyone & was called Strongest Man, Roger didn't defeat anyone & is considered Pirate King & Mihawk became Strongest Swordsman ... etc
Roger is the king of the pirates because he found the One Piece, MIhawk had proven fights at least against the Shanks and probably other great swordsmen to win his title and Whitebeard has battles against Roger at least and is placed at his level,

What were the feats of Kaido's battles to be considered the strongest in 1x1?
That's my doubt !
 
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Jo_Ndule

#37
No where it stated that Kaido lost to them, he didn't even lose against Oden. So you can remove oden as the one who gave him a defeat.
Oda didn't show garp, mihawk, aka inu, shiki also ... Because they probably didn't fight against Kaido but it doesn't mean they're weak.

Of course some of them defeated him, i'm sure about that but all of them appear young and WB didn't want to fight him for 20 years. They could be the one who gave an extreme diff battle to kaido. forget about wb, roger, rocks and oden because they are dead. If shanks potentially defeated him so by default shanks is stronger than Kaido no ? How kaido is the strongest living creature right now ? Doesn't make sense !!
And dude got captured 48 times but 0 defeat by the Navy ? come on.

it's just Oda exaggerating the Luffy wank and comparing him already to some legends. Nothing deep to think about it. Luffy has 0 connection to Rocks or WB, but Oda portrays luffy with them just after one blow lol
Nope

He never lost 1 v 1 since he got into his prime
People still cant get it
Osen said it...nobody will beat until Joyboy appears.

Kaido 7Ls come when he was a rookie/apprentice/supernova... before even going to Wano.


Oda didn't show other top tiers coz kaido doesn't deem them worthy
 
#38
I pretty much agree in the first part: it seems the people behind Luffy are the ones he lost to or at the very least the ones who can fight him. Yet Roger, WB and Xebec are god tiers of the verse even above Kaido, he lost to Oden and then there is also Shanks (and thay most likely means we have some more clues on how their meeting before Shanks come Marineford went).

Then about the other 2 supposed losses.. The current and original admirals don't fill the bill since they are weaker and also have the same age or younger than Kaido (Roger, WB, Xebec and Oden too confronted a younger and weaker Kaido and had an easier time at least compared to Shanks, if this theory is true) and the only one who can possibly have beaten the current Kaido is Shanks who indeed we saw behind him, for sure not people that Shanks treated like forniture and his peers/subordinates.

Then there is Garp/Sengoku/Kong but it would make sense to show at least Garp behind his nepew if he lost to him too (if the theory is right) even if there is a chance Luffy only had behind him the pirates Kaido lost/fought on par with (if there was Coby in his place..).

A sweet theory would be to have him some flashback of Mihawk when Zoro gets serious but that is my fanboy side speaking.

Then there is also the BM theory which could make sense: he didn't see BM behind Luffy cause he doesn't remind him of her (and she is also right beside him) and since BM is older it would make sense young Kaido lost to an already grown up BM (maybe he didn't even have his df at the time and him losing to BM would be totally possible since current Kaido=current BM or alnost at worst).

Some new character that has yet to be introduced would be nice as well. Maybe the leader of the giants in order to hype him for later.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#40
Kaido was said to have took 7 Defeats and in this Chapter we got to see potentiel 5 of these 7


- Rocks D. Xebec
- Edward Newgate
- Gol D. Roger
- Kozuki Oden
- Shanks
Oden did not defeat Kaido.

At least officially lol. Kaido won that fight, even if that did involve him becoming a fraud to do so.

Ergo, these 5 did not defeat Kaido lol.
 
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