Future Events Kaido's end will be at the hands of all Straw Hats - Oars style
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only parallel i see with oars is if the strawhats after their individual 1v1s take out one number each. since the numbers are ancient giants and all of them haven't been revealed yet, i think it'll be a nice parallel if the rest of the strawhats take out one number each (iirc luffy, franky & yamato have taken one out already). will be a nice way to show that yamato will be a future crewmate as well.
I am in agreement with this.
I also think it will come down to Luffy, Zoro, and Yamato vs Hybrid Kaido (ala Marvel Trinity vs Thanos in Endgame) for the final part of the fight (which is why I am also kinda hoping for Hawkins to come to his senses and join Killer, Law, and Kidd to take down Big Mom).
Not sure what the rest of the SHs can offer against Hybrid Kaido, tbh. He outclasses Sanji and Jinbei massively. Franky, Brook, Chopper, and Robin cannot hurt him while he can blinkstomp them. And the less said about the chances of Nami & Usopp against him, the better.
I also think it will come down to Luffy, Zoro, and Yamato vs Hybrid Kaido (ala Marvel Trinity vs Thanos in Endgame) for the final part of the fight (which is why I am also kinda hoping for Hawkins to come to his senses and join Killer, Law, and Kidd to take down Big Mom).
Not sure what the rest of the SHs can offer against Hybrid Kaido, tbh. He outclasses Sanji and Jinbei massively. Franky, Brook, Chopper, and Robin cannot hurt him while he can blinkstomp them. And the less said about the chances of Nami & Usopp against him, the better.
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Don't forget how much the Strawhats trolled Big Mom multiple times in their own ways. I don't see them doing that to Kaido ofc BUT I've always wanted another epic all SH's working together type battle like Oars and Kaido is literally the most perfect opportunity and parallel to Oars.
I would settle for Big Mom as the Oars 2.0 otherwise too as the SHs know her a lot more/better and have much more personal connections plus Oda loves to clown her as well as some of the SHs too. She's kinda like Moria too ironically. (Speaking of Moria, I still think is gonna come to Wano with Blackbeard and be instrumental in Kaido's fall and getting revenge on him finally for his slain crew by Kaido).
Oda seems to treat Kaido like the Admirals though, he definitely has more bias and respect for him generally, not as much as the Admirals maybe but still. It's a complete contrast to how he treats Big Meme generally, which is what really frustrates me about his portrayal of Big Meme.
I also think BM won't fall here and once again will chase them but to Elbaf this time and they have their final rematch/round there and she will fall vs the giants so they can witness their own revenge/vengeance and "justice" on her, the "karma" and such.
The SH's are best when they work together imo, their chemistry and interactions with one another really shine and is one of the reasons I find OP so compelling. They have had amazing moments solo too ofc, but we've been so starved of SH's being and working together and interactions between them, especially the whole crew being together and doing stuff together as well, so this would be the ultimate restoration of that former OP greatness for me, if they all fought together vs someone.
The SH's could really show how different they are as a crew to others, by actually working together and having that trust in each other as they've shown in this arc and previous ones too ofc. They are using the very concept of "a house divided itself cannot stand" and Kaido's crew are mostly about doing stuff yourself and not being a burden, being self sufficient/responsible but also a lack of trust in others, betrayals and such ironically. I would say Big Mom has this in her crew/family due to her own attitudes and inistence to control them out of fear.
Wow...that is harsh. But then again he gave us Oars Jr and Weevil, the latter who I hate and think is "pointless, random and thus not needed" so I can't really complain or criticise either lol.
I really liked Oars though for various reasons.
I would settle for Big Mom as the Oars 2.0 otherwise too as the SHs know her a lot more/better and have much more personal connections plus Oda loves to clown her as well as some of the SHs too. She's kinda like Moria too ironically. (Speaking of Moria, I still think is gonna come to Wano with Blackbeard and be instrumental in Kaido's fall and getting revenge on him finally for his slain crew by Kaido).
Oda seems to treat Kaido like the Admirals though, he definitely has more bias and respect for him generally, not as much as the Admirals maybe but still. It's a complete contrast to how he treats Big Meme generally, which is what really frustrates me about his portrayal of Big Meme.
I also think BM won't fall here and once again will chase them but to Elbaf this time and they have their final rematch/round there and she will fall vs the giants so they can witness their own revenge/vengeance and "justice" on her, the "karma" and such.
The SH's are best when they work together imo, their chemistry and interactions with one another really shine and is one of the reasons I find OP so compelling. They have had amazing moments solo too ofc, but we've been so starved of SH's being and working together and interactions between them, especially the whole crew being together and doing stuff together as well, so this would be the ultimate restoration of that former OP greatness for me, if they all fought together vs someone.
The SH's could really show how different they are as a crew to others, by actually working together and having that trust in each other as they've shown in this arc and previous ones too ofc. They are using the very concept of "a house divided itself cannot stand" and Kaido's crew are mostly about doing stuff yourself and not being a burden, being self sufficient/responsible but also a lack of trust in others, betrayals and such ironically. I would say Big Mom has this in her crew/family due to her own attitudes and inistence to control them out of fear.
Wow...that is harsh. But then again he gave us Oars Jr and Weevil, the latter who I hate and think is "pointless, random and thus not needed" so I can't really complain or criticise either lol.
I really liked Oars though for various reasons.
This is worse than just risking their life. Oda has got no substantial reason to portray this ultra abundant team play when they are just proving hindrances rather than a support. It would be illogical.
As I said, they most likely cannot prove positive, there's a finite chance Oda portrays this scenario nonetheless and it's mostly for the other thing I highlighted, the pleasure of the moment. It looks substantially unlikely however. Not only for the other argument but also the fact portraying Kaido like Oars doesn't seem like a good idea.
As I said, they most likely cannot prove positive, there's a finite chance Oda portrays this scenario nonetheless and it's mostly for the other thing I highlighted, the pleasure of the moment. It looks substantially unlikely however. Not only for the other argument but also the fact portraying Kaido like Oars doesn't seem like a good idea.
only the monster trio will fight kaido.
izo and denjiro are still without an opponent, marco will stop fighting king for some reason and denjiro will fight him instead, same case with sanji vs queen, we'll get some quick info dump (hopefully) then izo will switch with sanji.
the scabbards need some resemblance to a win, kaido won't give them that, so they must at least defeat the calamities, inuarashi is already fighting against jack, izu and denjiro vs king and queen.
monster trio vs kaido, pacifista style.
izo and denjiro are still without an opponent, marco will stop fighting king for some reason and denjiro will fight him instead, same case with sanji vs queen, we'll get some quick info dump (hopefully) then izo will switch with sanji.
the scabbards need some resemblance to a win, kaido won't give them that, so they must at least defeat the calamities, inuarashi is already fighting against jack, izu and denjiro vs king and queen.
monster trio vs kaido, pacifista style.
