Character Discussion Kaido's fallen reputation

[Fn Lucci]

You being a zoro fan that keeps waffling has everything to do with it tho. Tüdelü
Better lack next time ever being right, fartkun, your avi is actually VERY fitting

I've never been out grappled in king of the hill so yes, I do identify with sumo.

Ok my friend
You don't need to surpass beyond top tier lvl of strength, you don't need to beat anyone and follow the footsteps of Roger.

The man who stalemated Roger was called the strongest man in the world after his passing. The chapter called "strongest in the world" doesn't feature a claim made by or on behalf of Loki that validates him or puts him above Roger.

Don't try be a threat to Imu either. (Otherwise if Imu notices, it's over)

So far, their paths are understood to be parallel. You could say the opposite is true if you wanna go that route though: Imu never was able to stop him.

Are you going to try providing scans that show otherwise?

 

[Cruxroux]

Lmao guy trying to defend loki here is doing everything but defend him by giving points.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Ok my friend
You don't need to surpass beyond top tier lvl of strength, you don't need to beat anyone and follow the footsteps of Roger.
Don't try be a threat to Imu either. (Otherwise if Imu notices, it's over)
Forget about conquering your opponent.
Just need to claim the one piece with no one notice.
And become self proclaimed top 1 with biggest bounty.

I hope Luffy didn't find out how Roger becomes the PK

Roger>>>>>>> Rox bumass

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

•“Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein this guy's been talked about for years?“

Are you still taking Kaido this guy‘s been talked about for years..

Yeah those are totally the same thing and same level of seriousness 👍👍

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Yeah those are totally the same thing and same level of seriousness 👍👍

Lol

 

[WaidoWSC]

Yeah those are totally the same thing and same level of seriousness 👍👍

Sarcasm, hypocrisy & most importantly agreement with your prior statement.

Why is Kaido being frequently talked by all Kaido hater‘s despite him being, irrelevant, powercreeped (by few) & dead.

Kaido derangement syndrome is real

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Sarcasm, hypocrisy & most importantly agreement with your prior statement.

Why is Kaido being frequently talked by all Kaido hater‘s despite him being, irrelevant, powercreeped (by few) & dead.

Kaido derangement syndrome is real

Kaido is the goat 🐐

 

[WaidoWSC]

True, but in those characters cases, its not as bad as Kaido because they didn't have a power-based title like him.

Roger was strong, but was never hyped or praised for having top 1 strength unlike WB and Kaido.

Roger, Rayleigh, Gaban, Admirals, Yonkos, etc... getting powercliffed by Loki and Harald is not as embarrassing as Kaido.

You trolling right?

Kaido was SAID TO BE STRONGEST CREATURE according to the narrator, but WB was known to be the world strongest man.

So Kaido being pc by Harald and Loki isn‘t as embarrassing as the WSM being powercliffed by them.

With Imu‘s existence WB and Kaido‘s title might even be wrong to begin with, but at least with Kaido he was seemingly rumored to be the WSC, while WB was considered the strongest man.

Which makes more sense, because with Imu‘s existence and Oda probably didn‘t know about Imu‘s existence during the time WB was introduced.

Kaido‘s official introduction was closer to Imu‘s one, since Kaido was introduced after DR and Dressrosa seemingly teased Imu, it makes sense that Oda‘s statement of Kaido being SAID to be WSC is more a rumor, with already having Imu in his mind

 

[WaidoWSC]

Kaido is the goat 🐐

Technically yes. Let‘s be honest Kaido, BB, Akainu & Imu are going to be Luffy‘s strongest real fights.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Sarcasm, hypocrisy & most importantly agreement with your prior statement.

Why is Kaido being frequently talked by all Kaido hater‘s despite him being, irrelevant, powercreeped (by few) & dead.

Kaido derangement syndrome is real

You retard. Epstein is being talked because his vast network contains elites who's still running the world and largely unpunished for their crimes.


Kaido is a dumb muscle head who ruined a once great country and best known for getting scammed by Caesar and his failed smile fruits and buried deep under volcano, a figure that didn't worthy enough to get his own resting space. Kaido is done and his crew got destroyed and all his victims got their revenge. Everything about Kaido is utterly vanished. Don't forget his top 5 that shows how ignorant he is of the world. He is old news.

 

[Blahmigooo]

I've never been out grappled in king of the hill so yes, I do identify with sumo.

The man who stalemated Roger was called the strongest man in the world after his passing. The chapter called "strongest in the world" doesn't feature a claim made by or on behalf of Loki that validates him or puts him above Roger.

So far, their paths are understood to be parallel. You could say the opposite is true if you wanna go that route though: Imu never was able to stop him.

Are you going to try providing scans that show otherwise?

"Imu never able to stop him"
That's funny tho.....
Are we reading all latest chapters (not this week)
Imu admit to being a sitting duck too long and without dealing anything with themselves before it becomes too late.
Yea let's say Imu not targeting Roger is kind of plot armor and part of destiny.
Rather than Imu can't stop Roger even if he tries..... because that's stupid.

I need scans to provide why Loki > Roger??
After we read everything in Elbaf, and the flashback that involve Xebec entire life, all old legends, GV battle etc that shouldn't have business to be in Loki side-backstory....... unless it's to show Loki significance?
Yeah Loki is just that guy, needs all that for the buildup. This ain't difficult to realise


The FV with it's true form is entering the stage.
But here were stuck at some 15 years ago power lvl debates about dead heroes that put everything to the new generation hands (like Loki) that have the capabilities and role none could achieve.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Imu can't stop Roger even if he tries

I'm not interested in the speculation. They never fought and so there's no conclusion available.

I need scans to provide why Loki > Roger??

Yes, because your excuses are actually less interesting than the speculation. You're throwing a bunch of tangents together that have nothing to do with each other. I didn't ask about "Xebec entire life" lmao

The FV with it's true form is entering the stage.
But here were stuck at some 15 years ago

Actually I'm stuck wondering why the fuck you're talking about 15 years ago. Our time, 2011? Or in the story, almost a decade after Roger died? Neither of which has to do with Roger's stature, which is relevant to this thread because of Kaido's admiration for it.

 

[Dragon777]

never showed up on imu's radar
his captain's equal was sitting only a couple islands away from wano
waited until whitebeard was sick and dying to claim his head

enjoy your magma bath lmao

 

[Blahmigooo]

I'm not interested in the speculation. They never fought and so there's no conclusion available.

Sums up Roger legacy and how he could escape from any argument.
Cause if he never fought, he can't lose
😂
What a way to keep dodging the answer everyone would know

 

[Dragon777]

Yes, because your excuses are actually less interesting than the speculation. You're throwing a bunch of tangents together that have nothing to do with each other. I didn't ask about "Xebec entire life" lmao

 

[Blahmigooo]

Yes, because your excuses are actually less interesting than the speculation. You're throwing a bunch of tangents together that have nothing to do with each other. I didn't ask about "Xebec entire life" lmao

"Xebec entire life"
Who said you asked, I'm trying to make some sense and connect dots because i assume you actually read and knows the meaning of all these
Xebec the legendary pirate known as Roger greatest rival, been introduced in a fking Loki backstory.
How he needs Harald and the fruit to fight the world even tho he has WB with his fruits already etc etc.
And how Loki turn out to be that guy Xebec wish he got + better
Roger himself was inside these bubble.
Including his greatest battle in his career.
Connec the dots

 

[Blahmigooo]

Actually I'm stuck wondering why the fuck you're talking about 15 years ago. Our time, 2011? Or in the story, almost a decade after Roger died? Neither of which has to do with Roger's stature, which is relevant to this thread because of Kaido's admiration for it.

Yea as you keep bringing up Roger
The PK, that claim one piece, biggest bounty
Rivaled by only WSM Whitebeard etc
I can't think of anything else other than 2011 power scaling debate and old gen wank...

As if we don't know Roger strength, his limit and how he becomes PK in big 2026

 

[Marimo_420]

And Shanks had to wait for both this fraud and even bigger fruad Big Meme to get of the picture before he was brave enough to make his move.

😹😹😹😹

How much of a fruad is shanks?

 

[WaidoWSC]

According to Oda, Hassaikai does not have a rank, though if Kaido were to leave the weapon behind it would be a legend


That‘s more impressive than the chosen one weapon trope, so Kaido making an non ranked weapon, legendary is more impressive.

Kaido falling 10km down isn‘t less impressive of what happened to Loki.

Loki having a chosen •“god“ fruit isn‘t also better than Kaido having a mythical one, because of the chosen trope which is actually rejected by a lot of readers, so I don‘t know why suddenly this •“chosen god stuff“ is being celebrated.

Plus Loki‘s dragon design is definitely worse than Kaido‘s, despite his design being that great either, but visually Dragon Kaido > Loki.

Everything else goes for Loki, but at the end of the day Loki is a protagonist, Kaido is a villain. Would Loki beat him? High likely, but comparing Kaido with a protagonist is kinda redundant.

Kaido should be compared with other antagonists and villain

 

[WaidoWSC]

And Shanks had to wait for both this fraud and even bigger fruad Big Meme to get of the picture before he was brave enough to make his move.

😹😹😹😹

How much of a fruad is shanks?

You got a point he needed to wait for BM and Kaido to be beaten to make a move, but Shanks is Oda‘s mary sue. He will make him godly..