Powers & Abilities Kid already knows how to flow CoA

[Monkey D Theories]

I think many fans have this misconception about flowing CoA in that they conflate it with barrier or internal destruction. Barrier and ID are a form of ACoA, flow isn't. Flowing CoA is a basic CoA technique that is the mechanism behind coating any weapon. Yes, flow is relatively basic application of CoA.

Tashigi can use flow
helmeppo can use flow
half the fodder in amazon lily can use flow

Flow is not ACoA. So in regards to Kid, imo there is a 90% chance that he can use flow. As if he couldn't, that would mean his haki is functionally useless as he couldn't harden his metal. And when even amazon lily fodder can do this, I find it hard to not give Kid the benefit of the doubt as one of the strongest supernova.

"but but Kid can't use hardening because Oda never drew his metal with the black ink"

Yeah Oda doesn't do that all the time. We've got outright confirmation that Sanji was using CoA(both recently and in WCI) despite Oda never using the black shading. There are countless examples in the manga of characters confirmed to be haki users not having their blades blackened with CoA. Like Law, Oda has never used the black shading on Law's sword. Do we just assume that Law can't use haki on his sword now?

The reason why Oda doesn't use the black shading is because

1. Kid's use of flow isn't as good as some other users(zoro, scabbards, ect.)
2. having his metal black like that would be visually unappealing

Anyways where I'm going with this is that Oda could easily give Kid ACoC this arc without him knowing ACoA. Will it be as good as Luffy and Zoro's? obviously not. But he is a confirmed CoC user fighting a yonko and we've yet to see him use CoC even once this arc, I feel like there's a decent chance he gets it.

 

[Nestor]

Oda don't have time to show how Kid training with advCoC, so metal boy can get it any moment and nobody will not care, right? Just look at awekening

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Flow is not ACoA. So in regards to Kid, imo there is a 90% chance that he can use flow. As if he couldn't, that would mean his haki is functionally useless as he couldn't harden his metal

His vivre card says he uses the durability of the metal he collects, he can't coat the metal with haki, remember the rooftop? If you want to use the anime then Apoo vaporized his metal arm with a slash, that wouldn't happen if the metal was coated in haki.

 

[Cinera]

Yeah Oda doesn't do that all the time. We've got outright confirmation that Sanji was using CoA(both recently and in WCI) despite Oda never using the black shading.

You can use COA without hardening.

COA is "Busoshoku".
Hardening is "Busoshoku Koka".

Sanji may simply be incapable of Koka.

There are countless examples in the manga of characters confirmed to be haki users not having their blades blackened with CoA. Like Law, Oda has never used the black shading on Law's sword. Do we just assume that Law can't use haki on his sword now?

Yes, until shown otherwise, Law cannot harden his swords.

Hardening your weapon is more difficult than flowing haki to your weapon.

Anyways where I'm going with this is that Oda could easily give Kid ACoC this arc without him knowing ACoA. Will it be as good as Luffy and Zoro's? obviously not. But he is a confirmed CoC user fighting a yonko and we've yet to see him use CoC even once this arc, I feel like there's a decent chance he gets it.

Wasn't Kidd's power up Awakening? Oda seemed to have decided to take the DF route with Kidd.

Haoshoku coating is still possible for him, but I'm sceptical.

 

[Finalbeta]

From what I recall King talked about CoC in a way it presumes he does not feature it and so far none of the Beast Pirates displayed ACoA too so the odds are low by themselves and also considering King is already so potent this way.

If anything Flow is referred to Ryou if I'm not mistaken, advanced or not.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

His vivre card says he uses the durability of the metal he collects, he can't coat the metal with haki, remember the rooftop? If you want to use the anime then Apoo vaporized his metal arm with a slash, that wouldn't happen if the metal was coated in haki.

knowing flow isn't the same thing as having ACoA. You need ACoA to slash kaido. Kid's haki wasn't on that level, but he still probably at least had tashigi tier mastery of flow.
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Wasn't Kidd's power up Awakening? Oda seemed to have decided to take the DF route with Kidd.

Haoshoku coating is still possible for him, but I'm sceptical.

I just don't think it makes much sense to give him CoC, put him in a matchup against big mom, an ACoC user, and have CoC never be a factor in the battle.

post wano Kid's bounty should be near the 2 bil range. I don't think you get that strong with awakening alone.

 

[Herrera95]

ACoC has nothing to do with flow.

But you are right. Flow is not internal destruction but IS barrier haki.

It makes totally sense for Kid's to have it.

 

[Kiiro]

Yeah, I also believe that.

It is just the concept of it. Old guy said that the power which is called Haki in the outside, in wano it is called Ryou. Ryou is Armament Haki and not observation, they might not even have a name for it. Magic? Lol

They apply armament haki in a different usage as outsiders since they basically focus on their swords. They flow their haki to the sword, and this flowing could be use for offense and defensive purposes.

While advanced armament is something even greater than that.

 

[Franosuke]

Is there visual/verbal confirmation of Zoro using ACoA? I don't doubt he has it due to rooftop feats but I can't remember if it was explicitly stated or shown

 

[Finalbeta]

ACoC has nothing to do with flow.

But you are right. Flow is not internal destruction but IS barrier haki.

It makes totally sense for Kid's to have it.

The way I see ACoC is by simply categorizing very advanced versions. If we did that them perhaps Flow CoC would be there, but if we categorize it as no touch then no.

 

[Herrera95]

The way I see ACoC is by simply categorizing very advanced versions. If we did that them perhaps Flow CoC would be there, but if we categorize it as no touch then no.

It literally says coating. Why the hell people insists on flowing?