Powers & Abilities Kid Sanji's Willpower feat

[Herrera95]

Is not willpower. He had no food to eat. Zoro chose to not eat, he actually eat that same day. Zoro speech was bullshit that time, he just stayed 3 days without food. He thought he would handle a month but he didn't even stayed a week and spit bullshit about Luffy willpower. Probably Luffy would never accept that "challenge" but Luffy wouldn't be stupid enough to believe that blonde guy son of marine captain I forgot the name. So we can really say someone has better willpower for being starving. I could say Zoro at that time already had better endurance than WCI Luffy though hahahahaha. At least when talking about starvation.

Sanji 2 months without food is incredible(maybe Zeff have left some of his leg and gave to him?) but is not related to willpower at all.

 

[Jailer]

Kid Sanji had potential for CoC, grown up Sanji not, his will became weaker now.

 

[Herrera95]

All of the straw hats have their vices. That's why when the three learned Haki they were forced to live without these vices.

Luffy wasn't allowed to eat at points during his training

Sanji wasn't around women

Zoro was barred from Alcohol

Maybe Luffy spending 2 years far from his crew was the true vice instead of not eating food/meat sometimes. I mean gets stronger after eating meat, it is a thing in OP(and everywhere else, manga or real life) so it is bullshit to get this away from him.
Maybe that was an idea that Oda dropped only? Because haki is related to extreme situations and willpower only. Or this is what they need to do to develop their willpower? Incredible. So all the others Strawhats had nothing to give up that is why they didn't learned haki?

 

[Peroroncino]

Zoro has better willpower than even Luffy

 

[Herrera95]

Kid Sanji had potential for CoC, grown up Sanji not, his will became weaker now.

I don't think so. People in OP want to give the impression that willpower is dream related only. But it takes much more willpower to give up your dreams to protect someone. Sanji essentially did that when going to marry Pudding to protect Zeff.

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I agree going on that long without food does require immense will-power. Sanji's forced to withstand little to no food for 3 months and it seriously impacts how he views food and makes him more compassionate to other people, especially the starving. It takes a strong-will for a child to make it through that kinda situation, especially when the predicament isn't even your fault and you have no idea when it'll end.

Is not willpower. Sanji had no option than staying without food. Want to talk about willpower? Zeff is the GOD! He stayed without food and ate his OWN FUCKING LEG!

Zeff WILLPOWER GOD of OP

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro has better willpower than even Luffy

 

[Chrono]

Is not willpower. He had no food to eat. Zoro chose to not eat, he actually eat that same day. Zoro speech was bullshit that time, he just stayed 3 days without food. He thought he would handle a month but he didn't even stayed a week and spit bullshit about Luffy willpower. Probably Luffy would never accept that "challenge" but Luffy wouldn't be stupid enough to believe that blonde guy son of marine captain I forgot the name. So we can really say someone has better willpower for being starving. I could say Zoro at that time already had better endurance than WCI Luffy though hahahahaha. At least when talking about starvation.

Sanji 2 months without food is incredible(maybe Zeff have left some of his leg and gave to him?) but is not related to willpower at all.

Any normal human being wouldve died in Sanji's predicament. I don't see how doing it by your own will or by force changes anything. The point of the immense willpower is to survive starvation, not to see if you would break and eat food.

 

[Herrera95]

Any normal human being wouldve died in Sanji's predicament. I don't see how doing it by your own will or by force changes anything. The point of the immense willpower is to survive starvation, not to see if you would break and eat food.

"Any normal human being" we are talking about real life or what? Like I said Zeff was the true willpower beast. Not Sanji. Is impressive that Sanji not died during that time but it is more impressive that Zeff didn't died, let all the food to Sanji, ate his own leg etc. He could have eat all the food and Sanji to survive but he didn't. That feat of Sanji has nothing to do with willpower but Zeff does.

 

[Chrono]

"Any normal human being" we are talking about real life or what? Like I said Zeff was the true willpower beast. Not Sanji. Is impressive that Sanji not died during that time but it is more impressive that Zeff didn't died, let all the food to Sanji, ate his own leg etc. He could have eat all the food and Sanji to survive but he didn't. That feat of Sanji has nothing to do with willpower but Zeff does.

Since when did choice have anything to do with will-power. Should I say Luffy's willpower feat of surviving Iva's procedure in Impel Down, doesnt count as a Will-power feat. Since y'know Luffy had no choice in doing it and was forced to do it.

 

[Herrera95]

Since when did choice have anything to do with will-power. Should I say Luffy's willpower feat of surviving Iva's procedure in Impel Down, doesnt count as a Will-power feat. Since y'know Luffy had no choice in doing it and was forced to do it.

Exactly. Willpower could be Luffy asking for more hormones at Marineford in order to keep fighting to save Ace. Many people passed by more difficult situations than Luffy and was not given that willpower to them. So that can't be willpower.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Why Are People Using Gags To Downplay Sanji

it's to help them cope

 

[Chrono]

Exactly. Willpower could be Luffy asking for more hormones at Marineford in order to keep fighting to save Ace. Many people passed by more difficult situations than Luffy and was not given that willpower to them. So that can't be willpower.

Except you're entirely wrong. It was to do with will-power

And not only that, but Iva explains that surviving a life or death situation is entirely to do with Will-power as well. So stop demeriting Sanji's willpower feat of not eating for 2 months.

 

[Herrera95]

Except you're entirely wrong. It was to do with will-power

And not only that, but Iva explains that surviving a life or death situation is entirely to do with Will-power as well. So stop demeriting Sanji's willpower feat of not eating for 2 months.

Maybe this is only related to his power. Can't say is all life or death situations. But okay, that situation was Luffy willpower.

 

[Chrono]

Maybe this is only related to his power. Can't say is all life or death situations. But okay, that situation was Luffy willpower.

Sanji and Luffy's situations were exactly the same. It was a life or death situation.....surviving a life or death situation is to do with willpower. Whether is by choice or force. You either die or try your best to survive and live.

 

[Herrera95]

Sanji and Luffy's situations were exactly the same. It was a life or death situation.....surviving a life or death situation is to do with willpower. Whether is by choice or force. You either die or try your best to survive and live.

Is different because it involves Ivankov DF powers. When Luffy almost die to poison at WCI and Reiju saved him didn't had that willpower thing because her power completely negates the poison.
So Ivankoc used a power that boosts Luffy's natural defense, you can argue that willpower has something to do with this. Not necessarily life or death situations.

 

[Chrono]

Is different because it involves Ivankov DF powers. When Luffy almost die to poison at WCI and Reiju saved him didn't had that willpower thing because her power completely negates the poison.
So Ivankoc used a power that boosts Luffy's natural defense, you can argue that willpower has something to do with this. Not necessarily life or death situations.

Nobody is arguing the Reiju situation tho are they.

You cannot deny the Iva sitation as not will-power. It's literally already stated to be so. Once the procedure started, Luffy could not have stopped it or went against it. He would've been forced to completely endure it. Same way Sanji was forced to completely endure starvation.

Again both have nothing to do with choice, because will-power doesnt always have to be. It's retarded to believe it always is.

 

[Finalbeta]

Sanji and Luffy's situations were exactly the same. It was a life or death situation.....surviving a life or death situation is to do with willpower. Whether is by choice or force. You either die or try your best to survive and live.

If it's by force it's not the same as if it's by choice, that's an elementary concept you're missing.

 

[Herrera95]

Nobody is arguing the Reiju situation tho are they.

You cannot deny the Iva sitation as not will-power. It's literally already stated to be so. Once the procedure started, Luffy could not have stopped it or went against it. He would've been forced to completely endure it. Same way Sanji was forced to completely endure starvation.

Again both have nothing to do with choice, because will-power doesnt always have to be. It's retarded to believe it always is.

I used an example to point my view of how things are different. That is how a debate works. You clearly don't know.

I specific admitted that at Ivankov situation was willpower. But maybe this is how his DF works. Or just because it was Luffy natural defenses working. At Reiju situation it wasn't willpower and he was dying. But she completely removed by herself the poison. Luffy didn't had to fight against it like in Ivankov situation.

Sanji situation he did literally nothing. In fact he should have stayed unmoved just like Zeff to keep energy. It is impressive but not related to will power. Also Greenbull remained 3 years without food. Is that willpower? If so 2 months from Sanji is a joke.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Kid Sanji is great, its adult Sanji whose willpower is an issue =>

Again, Sanji think like that because Zoro is up against the strongest. He doesn't know if Zoro have some kind of debt to the person that saves him or not.

And then Sanji saw how determined Luffy and Zoro are when it comes to their dreams so he take back what he said about them.

 

[Finalbeta]

Again, Sanji think like that because Zoro is up against the strongest. He doesn't know if Zoro have some kind of debt to the person that saves him or not.

And then Sanji saw how determined Luffy and Zoro are when it comes to their dreams so he take back what he said about them.

True but he displayed too much doubt over his own possibilities or also trivialized his own dream sometimes. This didn't transpire from Zoro or Lufdy IIRC.