General & Others Kid was only "disappointing" because of lazy writing

#21
I would say is 50% lazy and 50% false hype.

He hypes villains so much in desperation for them to be interesting that he doesn't follow the logic he puts into them.

Kaido being hyped as immune to normal physical attacks(basic haki included) and turn out to be someone who suffers from Momonosuke's bite, Law's stones, Punk WWE moves...
It would make sense if there was some limit to kaido’s durability that kid could surpass

but oda needs to portray the strength of these attacks better
 
#23
That's strange I've seen interviews where he's complaining about the lack of time he has to build on his world building but that still doesn't stop him from adding dozens of side characters every arc.

Oda is weird, the guy left all the mysteries unexplained, 2 yonko's still not explored, Dragon and his crew unexplored, and he still keeps adding more mysteries into the show, it's like he likes making his life hell
Exactly. If you want to end the manga soon then its time to be more potent with the content. Stop drawing all of these useless running and panic panels and stop adding a million side characters on every island. Get potent and focus on what really matters. You can literally cut Wano in half and it would have increased its quality. He's doing it to himself.
 
#24
One piece is a shonen

If so many fans weren't understanding how Kid was damaging kaido and big mom, he should have portrayed it better
Yeah, it is shounen which is target to to teens. I doubt big boobs and slavery is for the kids lol. One Piece has politic matters too, there is so much goings that it aint for people who has to think a lot of thing If you want to understand the story.
 
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#25
Yeah, it is shounen which is target to to teens. I doubt big boobs and slavery is for the kids lol. One Piece has politic matters too, there is so much goings that it aint for people who has to think a lot of thing If you want to understand the story.
That shonen and target audience excuses are the worst.
 
#26
So if you look at actual feats, Kid objectively wasn't portrayed to be any weaker than Law. In fact you could even argue his portrayal was better. Yet ever since the rooftop, there was this outpour of people who were disappointed by Kid and overall bashed him relentlessly. Why? Because Oda was lazy in his writing.

Oda portrayed Kaido and Linlin to be near invincible to physical damage. He portrayed haki and internal damage as the most effective ways to hurt the two. And then he gave Kid none of these tools and instead had Kid damage the yonko via brute strength alone. On paper, this actually fits quite well with Kid's character, but it was executed horribly. Oda never really developed Kid throughout wano. He was largely sidelined and rarely got the spotlight until act 3, which even then was minimal.

As a result, when Kid does something like slam kaido into the ground, we have no idea how to scale something like that. It could be an absolutely devastating attack or it could be franky level, I don't know. Kaido said it is effective, so we must assume it was. But isn't that kinda shitty storytelling? Mangaka are supposed to show, not tell. But Oda seems too often not have the time to show, so we see him explain things out to the audience all the time. Things that imo a better mangaka wouldn't need to explain.
The best example of this was in 1038 where Kid rams Linlin with his metal bull and some fodder exclaim how the bull was larger than a gigantified big mom. Imo this is the epitome of lazy storytelling. Shouldn't this be something apparent to the reader? We should instinctively be able to see that linlin is gigantified and the bull is larger, but Oda didn't have the time to draw it clearly, so we get an explanation instead.

What Oda should have done was scale Kid's strength against weaker characters before having him fight an emperor. This was so easy to do as he was tortured for like a month by Queen. Why not have him briefly clash against Queen to showcase his strength? Instead of repetitively paralleling Kid's punk rotten form with Luffy's G4 to showcase Kid's strength, why not instead have Kid ragdoll a calamity or even someone like X Drake to showcase exactly how overpowered this is?

Then when Kid uses an even more powerful attack like punk corna dio, fans wouldn't think of Franky's motorcycle, they'd think of how powerful this new attack must be since a weaker attack did so much damage to a strong character.

Anyways I don't want to attack Oda's work ethic because god knows its insane. But the writing itself is lazy and I'm 99% sure this is because of the limitations of weekly serialization which force Oda to cut corners. I think this type of serialization just isn't conducive to quality, but that itself speaks to how great a writer Oda is, for being able to survive this long in such a format.
Wano is disasterclass
Wano is a disasterpiece
Wano is Woe Tale

Oda does not care about the story quality anymore. All he cares about is making merchandize characters for profit so he enlogates one piece as much as he can to be validated financially and as a mangaka even though odas art is beyond subpar of what it used to be.
 
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