Questions & Mysteries Kidd Pirates on the Live Floor - A Proper Payback
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Not all metals are magnetic 
Btw, even considering Kid having the matchup advantage over Queen, i can't see them last long.
They would defeat the Numbers, Killer and Drake would start fighting Apoo, Kid would try to attack Queen and the whole floor would slowly turn into Ice Oni. King and Queen would certainly be able to push Kid back to the live floor or Kid would go there to save his crew.
The Live Floor would be their tomb without Chopper, with King guarding the air and Queen shooting on them. Perhaps Killer and Drake would defeat Apoo in time.
If King didn't intervene, Queen would have a harder time but he wouldn't go down easy.
Kid > Queen is all but certain and, even if it were, fodders would help Queen and Kid would lose.
Kid can't defeat Queen in any possible scenario
Btw, even considering Kid having the matchup advantage over Queen, i can't see them last long.
They would defeat the Numbers, Killer and Drake would start fighting Apoo, Kid would try to attack Queen and the whole floor would slowly turn into Ice Oni. King and Queen would certainly be able to push Kid back to the live floor or Kid would go there to save his crew.
The Live Floor would be their tomb without Chopper, with King guarding the air and Queen shooting on them. Perhaps Killer and Drake would defeat Apoo in time.
If King didn't intervene, Queen would have a harder time but he wouldn't go down easy.
Kid > Queen is all but certain and, even if it were, fodders would help Queen and Kid would lose.
Kid can't defeat Queen in any possible scenario
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You think the mass of metal he attracted during the tower climb is lighter than Queen's body?
You're misreading what I meant with the thread. It's not Kidd Pirates alone vs Beast Pirates, the Onigashima scenario is still the same: 5400 Samurais just broke in the Live Floor and are fighting Oniwaban, enemy Samurais and Gifters/Headliners so they're fighting each other the same way it happened in the manga.
What I meant is: what if, in the middle of all this, Kidd Pirates were those who were facing the whole Ice Oni business?
It's not Kidd, Killer, Heat, Wire, Drake against all Kaido army without support, you're misreading the scenario I meant.
The strenght of a DF isn't a fixed date, improves with the user. Kidd's ability with his DF in Sabaody (or pre TS in general) isn't the same he has now
So no, doesn't mean that pre TS Kidd could fodderize Kuma/Queen etc, cause his ability with the DF now =/= his ability with the DF back in Sabaody
King never intervened during these events, he was giving orders and reappered only in chapter 999 when everything finished, his absence is the reason why I didn't consider him (only Queen, Apoo, Numbers, Ulti, Page One)
Chopper absence is why I said that the Ice Oni would probably keep spreading even after Queen/Apoo defeat, but the one who really stopped it wasn't Chopper but Marco, so following the events that happened in the manga Marco would still come and temporarily stop it.
Tristan and Miyagi are also there so Killer retrieving the antibody would result in them showing up and taking responsability for it, even if they don't know Killer and Drake.
Regarding Kidd being incapable of beating Queen I don't know what to tell you.
He's literally his counter, capable of making his weapons ineffective and obligating him on using his physical stats only (but even here there're not many problems since Kidd showed enough strenght to slam the whole mass of dragon Kaido to the ground with little effort).
Enlighten me on how Queen can beat Kidd please.
I thought this too, as I said in the main post, but if Marco/Tristan/Miyagi show up the problem can still be solved by a third party (since it was solved by Marco and Tristan/Myiagi are still there even without Chopper)
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So Apoo>Luffy since he temporarily KOed the leader of the Alliance?
You're misreading what I meant with the thread. It's not Kidd Pirates alone vs Beast Pirates, the Onigashima scenario is still the same: 5400 Samurais just broke in the Live Floor and are fighting Oniwaban, enemy Samurais and Gifters/Headliners so they're fighting each other the same way it happened in the manga.
What I meant is: what if, in the middle of all this, Kidd Pirates were those who were facing the whole Ice Oni business?
It's not Kidd, Killer, Heat, Wire, Drake against all Kaido army without support, you're misreading the scenario I meant.
The strenght of a DF isn't a fixed date, improves with the user. Kidd's ability with his DF in Sabaody (or pre TS in general) isn't the same he has now
So no, doesn't mean that pre TS Kidd could fodderize Kuma/Queen etc, cause his ability with the DF now =/= his ability with the DF back in Sabaody
They would defeat the Numbers, Killer and Drake would start fighting Apoo, Kid would try to attack Queen and the whole floor would slowly turn into Ice Oni. King and Queen would certainly be able to push Kid back to the live floor or Kid would go there to save his crew.
The Live Floor would be their tomb without Chopper, with King guarding the air and Queen shooting on them. Perhaps Killer and Drake would defeat Apoo in time.
If King didn't intervene, Queen would have a harder time but he wouldn't go down easy.
Kid > Queen is all but certain and, even if it were, fodders would help Queen and Kid would lose.
Kid can't defeat Queen in any possible scenario
The Live Floor would be their tomb without Chopper, with King guarding the air and Queen shooting on them. Perhaps Killer and Drake would defeat Apoo in time.
If King didn't intervene, Queen would have a harder time but he wouldn't go down easy.
Kid > Queen is all but certain and, even if it were, fodders would help Queen and Kid would lose.
Kid can't defeat Queen in any possible scenario
Chopper absence is why I said that the Ice Oni would probably keep spreading even after Queen/Apoo defeat, but the one who really stopped it wasn't Chopper but Marco, so following the events that happened in the manga Marco would still come and temporarily stop it.
Tristan and Miyagi are also there so Killer retrieving the antibody would result in them showing up and taking responsability for it, even if they don't know Killer and Drake.
Regarding Kidd being incapable of beating Queen I don't know what to tell you.
He's literally his counter, capable of making his weapons ineffective and obligating him on using his physical stats only (but even here there're not many problems since Kidd showed enough strenght to slam the whole mass of dragon Kaido to the ground with little effort).
Enlighten me on how Queen can beat Kidd please.
I thought this too, as I said in the main post, but if Marco/Tristan/Miyagi show up the problem can still be solved by a third party (since it was solved by Marco and Tristan/Myiagi are still there even without Chopper)
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So Apoo>Luffy since he temporarily KOed the leader of the Alliance?
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Man nobody would've handled the scenario you interpreted lol
The possibility of being infected is still there, but Killer fights with blades and doesn't need direct contact with the infected to hit them (just like Zoro and Drake)
Same goes for Kidd (who uses metal) but he would probably head for the execution platform where Queen is so he's the last one who has to worry for being infected
I doubt they would have the same fate of Chopper
The possibility of being infected is still there, but Killer fights with blades and doesn't need direct contact with the infected to hit them (just like Zoro and Drake)
Same goes for Kidd (who uses metal) but he would probably head for the execution platform where Queen is so he's the last one who has to worry for being infected
I doubt they would have the same fate of Chopper