Speculations King Worth more than 3Billions

if Government Find out King is Lunarian who already had 1.39B bounty, How much will it rise?


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#42
Yep, Government falls for it.
Same Government who also still thinks Cracker's real form is the biscuit soldier form.


Again, Government tried to promote Garp to save their face. To make it more believable.
The Hero they pick after God Valley is now getting a promotion, become a Navy Admiral. They want to make a Navy Admiral as their puppet.


Because he was already close with Roger.
Entrusting something is not related to powerlevel, so what is this supposed to mean?
Luffy entrusted his hat to Nami in Arlong Park arc.


Fanfiction.
The difference between Cracker and King is they never held Cracker for an undisclosed amount of time, putting him through countless tortures, and know exactly what he looks like. They've only ever seen Crackers biscuit solider. They have an extensive amount of knowledge on King and his anatomy.

You'd have an argument there if it wasn't for the fact that the World Government tried to promote him multiple times on multiple occasions. If it was a matter of saving face, they'd ask him once, and him turning it down would be their out. They tried, he said no, and leave it at that. They wouldn't keep asking the man who constantly defies them to become an Admiral. Hell, Oda would have never even needed to put that in the story. He did so to let the readers know that even though Garp is a Vice Admiral, he was qualified to be an Admiral.
 

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#44
The World Government only wants the Lunarians so they can experiment on them. King being one doesn't make him a bigger threat to them. Him being Kaido's RHM warrants a bigger bounty than him being a Lunarian ever could.
I am pretty sure you wouldn't wipe out an entire race if you don't see them as a threat.

I want what you are smoking :pepebusi:

Btw his bounty is already buffed to 1.39 billion including the 100m bounty for being Lunarian. Your boi actual bounty was <Queen.
You get 100m just for having information on a Lunarian, meaning you'd get a much higher bounty if you actually capture one.
 
#45
The difference between Cracker and King is they never held Cracker for an undisclosed amount of time, putting him through countless tortures, and know exactly what he looks like. They've only ever seen Crackers biscuit solider. They have an extensive amount of knowledge on King and his anatomy.

You'd have an argument there if it wasn't for the fact that the World Government tried to promote him multiple times on multiple occasions. If it was a matter of saving face, they'd ask him once, and him turning it down would be their out. They tried, he said no, and leave it at that. They wouldn't keep asking the man who constantly defies them to become an Admiral. Hell, Oda would have never even needed to put that in the story. He did so to let the readers know that even though Garp is a Vice Admiral, he was qualified to be an Admiral.
Government doesn't know King is Lunarian.
Sooner you realize their information gathering is not as great as we all expected, the better.
I meant the last reveal with Gomu Gomu already make the Gorosei look like scrubs in gathering information. But if you insist, then I agree to disagree. The Garp topic interests me more.

About Garp, can you please explain all these to me:
- why Kaido not listed Garp in his Great 5 List? Kaido was living witness of God Valley Incident, and Garp was supposed to be 1 of the 2 big stars of the incident. So why is Kaido not impressed and putting him in the list?
- why Oda teased with Sengoku saying "there are many tales about Garp's story in God Valley, I am not sure which 1 to believe"? As is Oda tells us there is 1 hidden truth for Garp.
- why Garp is tight lipped regarding the God Valley? Which is same like Smoker who tight lipped about Alabasta incident?
- what did Rayleigh and friends do in God Valley, that you believe only Roger and Garp duo defeated the Rocks Pirates?
- Why Garp that is supposed to defeat Rocks and his crew duo with Garp. Yet 8 years later he still needed training to face Chinjao?

All of these connects to Garp being the fraud imo. I like to hear your explanation, since I was also impressed with your older theories, especially Pudding is evil theory.
 
#46
I am pretty sure you wouldn't wipe out an entire race if you don't see them as a threat.



You get 100m just for having information on a Lunarian, meaning you'd get a much higher bounty if you actually capture one.
You wouldn't be able to wipe out an entire race if they were as big as a threat as the OP is making them out to be. King is a sole survivor. His existence is not on par as a threat as tens of thousands of his people.

The D Clan are by far made out to be the biggest threat to the World Government, and they don't get an astronomical bounty because of it. And there are tons of Ds out there.
 
#48
Government doesn't know King is Lunarian.
Sooner you realize their information gathering is not as great as we all expected, the better.
I meant the last reveal with Gomu Gomu already make the Gorosei look like scrubs in gathering information. But if you insist, then I agree to disagree. The Garp topic interests me more.

About Garp, can you please explain all these to me:
- why Kaido not listed Garp in his Great 5 List? Kaido was living witness of God Valley Incident, and Garp was supposed to be 1 of the 2 big stars of the incident. So why is Kaido not impressed and putting him in the list?
- why Oda teased with Sengoku saying "there are many tales about Garp's story in God Valley, I am not sure which 1 to believe"? As is Oda tells us there is 1 hidden truth for Garp.
- why Garp is tight lipped regarding the God Valley? Which is same like Smoker who tight lipped about Alabasta incident?
- what did Rayleigh and friends do in God Valley, that you believe only Roger and Garp duo defeated the Rocks Pirates?
- Why Garp that is supposed to defeat Rocks and his crew duo with Garp. Yet 8 years later he still needed training to face Chinjao?

All of these connects to Garp being the fraud imo. I like to hear your explanation, since I was also impressed with your older theories, especially Pudding is evil theory.
I'll address all those points tomorrow. It's almost 3 am and I'm on mobile. New laptop arrives tomorrow.
 

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#49
You wouldn't be able to wipe out an entire race if they were as big as a threat as the OP is making them out to be. King is a sole survivor. His existence is not on par as a threat as tens of thousands of his people.

The D Clan are by far made out to be the biggest threat to the World Government, and they don't get an astronomical bounty because of it. And there are tons of Ds out there.
Obviously, OP is exaggerating but that doesn't mean we can completely dismiss the fact that they were wiped out because they're a threat, in the first place. The D clan was never seen as a direct threat like Lunarians; they're seen more like troublemakers who always find ways to oppose the order set by the WG, and by extension, the CDs. If they're a direct threat like the Lunarians, nothing stops the WG from going around the world wiping them out. I'd say your average D kid is much easier to kill than his Lunarian counterpart.
 
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#50
You get 100m just for having information on a Lunarian, meaning you'd get a much higher bounty if you actually capture one.
You wont if you capture him tou get 1,39 bilion it's his bounty and that amount aint small. But if you give them information on lunarian you get a 100 mil tip. Not complicated only zoro fanboys do this sort of mental gymnastics
 
#51
Obviously, OP is exaggerating but that doesn't mean we can completely dismiss the fact that they were wiped out because they're a threat, in the first place. The D clan was never seen as a direct threat like Lunarians; they're seen more like troublemakers who always find ways to oppose the order set by the WG, and by extension, the CDs. If they're a direct threat like the Lunarians, nothing stops the WG from going around the world wiping them out. I'd say your average D kid is much easier to kill than his Lunarian counterpart.
I don't really see OP is exaggerating.
Giving a surivor of the race who has more durability than mythical dragon skin... or actually the most durable race in the history, 2B sounds reasonable.

With how durable Lunarians are, not too farfecthed if Government wiped them out using Ancient Weapon. And King survived that disaster.
 

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#55
You wont if you capture him tou get 1,39 bilion it's his bounty and that amount aint small. But if you give them information on lunarian you get a 100 mil tip. Not complicated only zoro fanboys do this sort of mental gymnastics
These are two different topics. One, what is the set price on an average Lunarian? Two, what would be the price of a Lunarian who works under Kaido as his number two?

100 million isn't what the WG is willing to pay you for capturing a Lunarian; it's what you get for tipping off about a Lunarian. There is a huge difference b/w the incentive you get for a tip-off and an actual bounty. If they're giving you 100m just for a tip-off, you'd get much more for a capture. That's common sense.

With that being said, King got his bounty from being Kaido's number two. It has nothing to do with him being a Lunarian, which is the whole point of him hiding his face. If his bounty already factors in the fact that he's a Lunarian, then he has little reason to hide his identity. If even Kaido's number 2 wants to hide his Lunarian identity despite the protection from a Yonko, then being Lunarian is actually a big deal meaning King's bounty would be even higher than it actually is if they factor it into his bounty. Obviously, it wouldn't be anywhere near 3B like the OP suggests. Even 2B would be an exaggeration IMO.

You mean to tell me King bounty would be even lesser than i was implying it to be had he not been a Lunarian. Aight changing it to
<<<<Queen
No, I am telling you his bounty would've been much higher than Queen's if they factor in his Lunarian race into his bounty.
 
#56
So the WG knows that Kaido helped Alber escape Punk Hazard, but they can’t figure out that the guy with wings and fire constantly on his back that is Kaido’s YC1 is the same Lunarian that they lost?
Are all WG (navy, ssg, warlords, Kings who participate to reverie, CD) aware of what happened at Ohara ?

Only the higher officers like gorosei, old admirals and vegapunk are probably aware who King is. But pretty sure Akainu doesn't know who is King. Even WB, Marco never met King, that's why they were like "what is a lunarian? Gods!"
 

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#59
Bruh WG was experimenting on him because of his race, of course they know he's a Lunarian
Not everyone in the government knows what experiments they're conducting. Once again, if everyone and their mothers know who King is, then there is no reason for King to hide his identity from the WG. If the information is so obvious, you wouldn't have Marco questioning his race after directly fighting him.
 
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