Creating Pocket Dimensions <<<<<< Creating actual infinite time space universes.
Termina and the Sacret Realm are not Pocket Dimensions tho.
Both Ganon and Majora performed feats of creating two different parallel universes into something different.
For example Bruno Bucciarati from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure opens Zips to a void dimension.
Yes, he isn't universe level whilst Majora is stated to be a reality warper on universal scale. That's the difference.
Or for example Caribou claims his mud swamp is bottomless which doesn't mean Caribou is an infinite space time dimension.
Pretty sure sites such as VSBW or OBD would consider to not use hyperboles in their scaling.
And no, Termina being a parallel universe was stated several times. Have you ignored the panels I've posted here?
Opening portals to other dimensions IS NOT universal
I did not say that's a universe feat, did I?
Creating large or even "bottomless" pockets of space IS NOT universal.
Majora created the parallel world Termina. All of that is irrelevant.
Distorting large amounts of space is NOT universal.
Again, how is that relevant to Majora?
So here's the issue with what you posted.
There isn't any issue you correctly addressed tho.
You simply gave examples which do not fit what Majora managed to do in the lore.
"Sacred Realm" "Dark world" aren't stated to be Infinite time spaces
The Triforce keeps space and time together of the universe.
Lorule, ANOTHER parallel universe, slowly collapsed when the Triforce was destroyed which kept the world at bay.
The Sacred Realm/The Dark World is nothing different to Lorule, it is a parallel world to the original universe created by the gods.
Btw, I've found this translation about Din's power:
大地と時空のことわりをみだし そこに生まれる人大地と時空のことわりをみだし そこに生まれる人々の“なげき”、 “ほろび”と“ぜつぼう”をあつめ 々の“なげき”、 “ほろび”と“ぜつぼう”をあつめ ツインローバのもとに おくる しめいを おっていたのでしょう
Their mission was to throw the reasons of earth and space-time out of order, collect the “grief”, “ruin”, and “despair” born in the people from this, and give it to Twinrova.
How exactly isn't that a universe feat? It entirely affects the space and time
from a full timeline after all.
The Parallel world that Majora was in had a planet that was Majora was threatening.
As long as there is nothing which retconneds the statements, Majora canonically created the parallel world. That's it.
Majora wasn't stated to be a threat to the entire parallel world.
Once again, read the scans.
And if you say that the one planet being threatened is equivalent to threatening the entire parallel world then that means that parallel world isn't even infinite time space
And how exactly do you know that Majora just affected the planet in that alternative universe? IIRC, there ain't statements implying of a finite universe either whilst it is constantly mentioned to affect both space and time from a timelime.
The tri force isn't stated to be a universe level artifact or anything.
It is stated in AlbW.
The only universal entities are the creators of the universe and no one has ever threatened to be destroy the creators.
The creators are responsible for the entire timeline, hence low multiverse level.
You are mixing up a universal divine artifact - created by the 3 gods - with the literal creators of the Zelda verse.
See I'm using the word "threatened" because I know the rules if story telling.
And that is your mistake.
You only think that a character is universe level if it threatens the universe. That ain't the only reason.
Hylia said the Triforce could alter the essence of all things. Thus, this includes space and time as well, literally everything.
Now what?
No one in the legend of Zelda universe has THREATENED to destroy more than a planet.
Has somebody ever destroy a universe in God of War? I don't know that, that's why I am asking.
By the way, that is the typical way how a DBZtard would argue. "Character X didn't destroy that and thus, he's weaker than Zeno!!!", "Saint Seiya characters are weak, they didn't destroy x and y whilst Goku/Beerus/Zeno did this and that!".
Being universe level is not only limited on destruction. Creation and pure manipulation are also huge factors.
Zanza from XBC literally recreated his universe over and over again although we just see an endless sea with two titans, now what???
And btw, the Windfish - a being inferior to Majora/Ganon/Triforce - warped an alternative reality which contains SEVERAL stars, which implies an alternative reality worth of multiple solar systems, and he is not even universe level.
No one in the legend of Zelda universe has created an entire infinite time space universe except the Creators of that universe.
There are differences between finite and infinite universes, yes.
However, it was stated that the Triforce can alter all essence of things. Something similar was stated when the Artificial Aion (XBC2) was able to erase all existence.
No one has warped the entire Time space of an infinite Space time universe.
You really should read the scans.
As a comparison, to a universal feat in God of war, Freya says the Ygridsil Transcends INFINITE SPACE TIME.
So it is in the same ballpark as the Triforce after all, what exactly is your problem then?
And yet when the world serpent fought Thor they ACCIDENTALLY broke a few branches of it.
?!
Distorting large amounts of space is NOT universal.
At least be consistent with the way you argue.
Majora casually created an alternative reality which contains a sun
within a small moon. If this one ain't a universe level feat, which it isn't ofc, then the another one isn't a universe feat either.
These guys ACCIDENTALLY broke parts of infinite space time while fighting each other.
Once again: Majora casually created an alternative reality which contains a sun
within a small moon. If this one ain't a universe level feat, which it isn't ofc, then the another one isn't a universe feat either.
You are recently quite bias.
And a random outcome of this was The world serpent traveling back in time.
Time travel is nothing new in the Zelda verse.
That's the equivalent of two people fighting in the kitchen and accidentally knocking a plate over and it breaks. In this situation, The two people broke time space itself. The plate breaking is accidental time travel.
That is impressive indeed but I fail to understand how Kratos is stronger than Link based on that?
The strongest Link has the power of a divine artifact holding the universe together. When Ganon held this power, he completely corrupted and warped the Sacred Realm - a parallel universe which is designed TO PROTECT THE TRIFORCE FROM THE EVIL - into the Dark World and ruled over it.
The world serpent accidentally breaks infinite time space but gets knocked out by three punches from a regular God.
You just said the contrast a few paragraphs above, lol.
If the World Serpent and Thor just managed to destroy parts of said infinite time and space continuum, how did the World Serpent accidentally break infinite time space?
That's what a universal feat looks like.
The way you distort other universal feats just for the purpose to elevate your favo verse higher reminds me, once again, of the way how DBZtards debate in CV.
And ofc, both stuff are universal feats. That's why I said both Kratos and Link are universe level.
There's has to be stated infinite space time feats. And only the creation of the Zelda universe is on that level
Once again, the creators of the Zelda verse created all existing timelines - that's above universe level.
