Current Events Kuma’s backstory is TOO sad

[BlackLegFring]

Misery porn is right on. A saintly character with excessive tragedies. Oda's gotten worse at making grey characters.

I don’t think that Oda’s interested in making grey characters to begin with. He even has Bonney immediately saying “not really” after saying “Rob people,” and such.

 

[silverfire]

I don’t think that Oda’s interested in making grey characters to begin with. He even has Bonney immediately saying “not really” after saying “Rob people,” and such.

That is true, I don’t even know who I was thinking of.

 

[Logiko]

I don’t think that Oda’s interested in making grey characters to begin with. He even has Bonney immediately saying “not really” after saying “Rob people,” and such.

The issue with the argument of grey characters (I'm not targeting you specifically) comes with the fact of thinking that because there are grey characters in a story, therefore the story is better because it reflect the reality better.

The problem with that statement comes in two parts:

- It ignores the fact that stories are most of the times not meant to be a depiction of reality but art products meant to enhance reality to create meaning and emotions. (this is why Oda creates very few "grey characters")
- It perpetuate the idea that good representations are representations where characters can do good but will also do bad things which is just wrong. Good representations are just good people.

The purpose of grey characters is to create more mysteries in the dynamic of the narration, but when you already have a good dynamic of mysteries or good overall characters like in One Piece, then grey characters are not a necessity anymore.

 

[Yoho]

It's really no sadder than any other flash back

Hell if it wasn't for the Ginny situation it probably wouldn't even break the top 5 most tragic flash backs

 

[BlackLegFring]

The issue with the argument of grey characters (I'm not targeting you specifically) comes with the fact of thinking that because there are grey characters in a story, therefore the story is better because it reflect the reality better.

The problem with that statement comes in two parts:

- It ignores the fact that stories are most of the times not meant to be a depiction of reality but art products meant to enhance reality to create meaning and emotions. (this is why Oda creates very few "grey characters")
- It perpetuate the idea that good representations are representations where characters can do good but will also do bad things which is just wrong. Good representations are just good people.

The purpose of grey characters is to create more mysteries in the dynamic of the narration, but when you already have a good dynamic of mysteries or good overall characters like in One Piece, then grey characters are not a necessity anymore.

I agree. Grey characters aren’t necessary, but they do spice things up a bit.

Different people like different kinds of characters, and I’m one of those that loves them all whether grey, black or white as long as they’re written well.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Oda likes to off route when classic fight begins I think flashback shouldn’t be longer than 2 chapters . Other than God Valley and Ginny’s plot the rest could have been monologue .
The only reason I see extra fb added because Oda thinks reader won’t convinced Saturn tormented Kuma’s entire life and luffy will free him.
Same with Law and Oden’s piece it’s all connected to misery they faced and luffy will free them.

 

[Kumathegoat]

Misery porn is right on. A saintly character with excessive tragedies. Oda's gotten worse at making grey characters.

Speaking about grey characters, what are your opinions about Vegapunk, Kizaru and Dragon?

 

[Toryu]

Misery porn is right on. A saintly character with excessive tragedies. Oda's gotten worse at making grey characters.

Which grey characters we have in OP though?

Like I can think of Maybeeee Shanks, Mihawk and Kizaru, and that a huge maybe