Theory Kuzan is still working for the navy and the fight with Sakazuki was orchestrated by the gorosei

[Kuroshika]

Imo Akainu would never listen to a Gorosei :cheers::)

That why he turned the situation on his favor lol

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But why would the Gorosei want to hinder heir greatest force when the Yonkou are a prominent threat?

It’s not about fighting Yonkos, it’s about gorosei fearing the Aka/Ki/Ao trio as a direct threat to their « elder stars » power

 

[Finalbeta]

That why he turned the situation on his favor lol

Ah well I would agree on that, he's used to shift everything to his sense of justice :cheers:

He definitely doesn't like the Gorosei's policy

 

[Kuroshika]

Ah well I would agree on that, he's used to shift everything to his sense of justice :cheers:

He definitely doesn't like the Gorosei's policy

Absolutely he trashed them lol

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X Drake being a supernovae undercover with a bounty and Kizaru wrecking his ass at sabaody confirms there are marines working undercover, and X drake is described as a “former navy soldier”.

 

[KiriNigiri]

I'm not sure Kuzan is working with the Marines. When he spoke to Smoker, he suggested he follow his own justice, and that many things become clearer outside of the Marine. That'd be less effective if he were still secretly working for them.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Not necessarily working for Marines, though still a possibility (technically for WG, since let´s be honest, most of the time, WG>Pirates any day) but definitely following an ulterior motive, it´s incredibly obvious.

 

[Erkan12]

The question is how long Blackbeard will toy with Aokiji?

 

[Shura]

Aokiji being a Revo never made any sense. He tried to kill Robin(the Light of the Revolution) and tried killing Luffy 3 times in MF(tries to kill Luffy but Marco stopped him, froze the ocean to prevent Jinbe from escaping with Luffy, froze the ocean to kill Law).

nope...it is still ambiguous or I am overseeing it but Aokiji saw Akainu coming for Luffy and he took lead in attacking Luffy and seemingly wanted to kill him only to be kicked by Marco at perfect "timing".....but this argument has nothing to do with Aokiji being revolutionary

 

[BossYimz]

Hello there ! first time writing a theory on this beautiful new forum ! would like to take a moment thank the admins for that :cheers:
otherwise I wouldn't have any other place to expose my Admiral madness lmaoooooo anyways let's get into my theory :

First of all we are going to talk about the Admiral before time skip, their personnalities and abilities together.

We all know the primary colors of the color spectrum right? Blue, Yellow and Red. with these three colors, you can make all the others. Why did they choose the three primaries tho ? I think it is because the represent brut and simple yet extremely powerful elemental powers. The 3 of them are working incredibly well together. Magma and Ice covered already a vast amount of power, but with light on top of that, you are sure that nobody will be able to take down the navy.
Some futilities also are to take in consideration : Sakazuki and Borsalino joined the navy together. They are since then, nakamas. Kuzan joined later, but he climbed to VA rank along with his new partners. They had the same mentor and spent a lot of time together, you can deduce that they are really close. But it isn't shown on panel time, for I believe, plot purpose.

The colors and powers complete each other, and so do the personnalities !

Sakazuki's hot headed temperature is brought down by Kuzan, Kuzan's lazynes is cut down by Borsalino's enthusiasm, Borsalino's light headed mind is completed by Sakazuki's extreme seriousness.
We have seen them talking to each other, a very few times, but it was enough to see how they act upon each other. I think the three of them have the ability to tear each other up with simple and direct dialogue, even if it doesn't seem much in the first place.

with that in mind, let's start the actual theory I am making, wich is :

Kuzan still works for the navy and his fight against Sakazuki was orchestrated.

I am not afraid to make this statement. This is a risky bet that i'm ready to take, because of intuition and deduction.
Let's start with the beginning, shall we.

Kuzan has been shown as a very, very lazy person. He constantly sleeps on his desk, wich annoys Sakazuki, and barely even gets job done. He is quite smart tho, but so are the two others.
On the other hand, Sakazuki works extremely hard every day to get job done in order to achieve his dreams, whilst Kizaru doesn't seem to be interested in the FA post, but still does his job with happiness and enthusiasm.

So WHY would Kuzan be the one promised the rank of fleet Admiral ? doesn't it seem a bit odd to you ? Of the three admirals, he is the one with the less experience and keeps falling asleep instead of working. -Now listen I'm not trashing him, I LOVE Kuzan, but that seemed way too early for him to get promoted VA-
That doesn't make sense to me. If Sengoku doesn't wanted to get Sakazuki FA, he could have gave the post to Kizaru, wich in my opinion, would have been the best choice. But he didn't. Kuzan gets that rank out of nowhere, he didn't do much during the war either where Sakazuki had both Ace and WB down.

Having curruent Kuzan as an FA would have made no sens, but also would have been extremely disrespectful towards his fellow admirals. Giving him the rank was a trigger.
The Gorosei want a complete control over the navy, wich is what Sakazuki despites the most about them. Sengoku choose his admirals so well, he was the only one able to control them, not because he is stronger but because he bonded with them a solid relation of respect. Like it has been shown in the Z movies, they feel a deep respect for their superiors. That was probably why Sengoku was able to handle the 3 of them. But with Sengoku gone, the Gorosei could not do the same thing, considering how corrupted they are, wich is a thing Sakazuki absolutely despites.

With Sengoku's retreat, they could only do one thing : take down the trio in order for them to have a better control on the navy. That is why Kuzan was promised the rank. It was nothing more than a manipulative move from them, in order to regain complete control over marineford. The initial goal was even probably having Kuzan and Sakazuki ending up killing each other. And why the hell would new admirals come from the WG and not promoted VA directly from the navy ? Made no sens either. The WG clearly tried to get the whole navy restructured for their own benefit and nothing else.

That being said, Sakazuki, Kuzan and Borsalino are everything but stupid. I really, really think they saw through it. The fight on PH happened in order to make the gorosei think they baited. but they didn't.

Kuzan didn't wanted the post. They organized their fight. They took 10 nights and 10 days to let you think of a real one. The injuries were also made up. Kuzan knew he could live without a leg. It's a sacrifice he was willing to take in order to continue and fight for justice, under Sakazuki.
The main reason I have to believe this about the fight is the simple reason that Sakazuki left Kuzan alive.
Sakazuki is not afraid to kill, he is tough and built a solid capacity to kill without regretting over the years. Leaving Kuzan alive, after taking his leg and knowing that he would leave the navy makes no sense. He killed navy soldiers for less than that, so why tf would he let Kuzan get away with that, and probably put the navy in danger if Kuzan ended up having some kind of bitterness towards the navy ? Kuzan ending up giving confidential infos about the navy to pirates ? It makes absolutely no sense to me. It's unlike him. The only reason Kuzan was not killed this very day and that he is still running the sea, in contact with the navy is because Sakazuki told him to do so and he trusts him.
With the little attention they get on panels, we tend to forget that they grew up together. We tend to forget that in order to be the most solid possible protection of the navy, the Admirals must have a deep bond together, and that they are able to work with each other.
Now Kuzan is working for Sakazuki, undercover, in order to observe one of the most powerful threat to the navy : Blackbeard.

That's it my babes, if there is something you didn't understand of want me to develop, feel free to comment and ask me <3
kisses !

After seeing what was revealed about drake I can see this being true.
However, I dont think this was planned or do e by the wg.
When Akainu met withthe wg he told them Kuzan is not part of the navy and can do what ever he wants.

If this is planned, I believe it is planned by Akainu and Kuzan. From what we are seeing, the ag controls CP while navy controls navy undercover agentsand the navy and ag are not seeing eye to eye

 

[Just a member]

I find fishy too that Akainu let Aokiji go, he killed for far less not considering how big of a threat an ex admiral would be for the WG.

For sure there is something below the surface but for that to be true Akainu should have a deep trust of Aokiji and hate or at least very heavy suspiction on WG real motives to the point to organize all this which in the end makes more sense than Akainu letting Aokiji go out of respect-pity. Yet there is also another option, even if that has its flaws too.

Both Akainu and Aokiji don't trust at all the WG but at the same time they believe that the navy will collapse if the other becomes FA, so they went at eachother with all the intentions to win and nothing really planned until that point. The 10 days fight happens but in the end it is Aokiji to win despite losing the leg, at the same time they both witness some of the dark activities the WG put on motion in Punk hazard. At that point he can not kill Akainu because afterall he was his comrade and, even if in his absolute way, he always did his job and is one of the marine biggest assets. But at the same time Aokiji is sick of the WG and wants to do something about it, but if he becomes the fleet admiral he will be, even more than at that point, under the direct control of the celestial dragons so as winner and new fa he orders Akainu to take the role of FA in his place while he goes rogue and is free to find a way to overthrow the WG but without making the pirates take its place.

This one makes sense as Aokiji could hate the WG like Garp and because of what happened at Ohara while Akainu doesn't seem to keep deep hatred for the WG, at least not as much as Aokiji could. The problems here are how can Aokiji trust Akainu so much as to stay at its side and not snitch him to the WG (the opposite of the 1st scenario) and also give at the same time the control of the navy to somebody he believes will ruin it and the world with it (and this is a new problem).

What is fishy in all these theories is that 99% Akainu and Aokiji hate each other so it is difficult to see him working together and for this same reason it is impossible to not be suspicious about Akainu letting Aokiji go.

What is funny is that at the end the cause of all this, aka why Akainu let Aokiji live, could be just because Oda didn't want to kill Aokiji and couldn't find a better reason to make it live.