Left Wing vs Right Wing

SmokedOut

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#46
nope.that is an objective fact,read antonio gramsci.The left abandoned guerrila warfare for cultural war.They dominate the media,academia and arts.So people that run society are left wingers without even knowing.Everyone is bombarded with cultural marxism 24/7 everywhere there is a tv,radio or internet acess.That is an objective fact mot an opinion.
Agree to disagree :kayneshrug:
 
#47
On Topic

I believe health care should be a right. People already pay taxes. So why not out a portion of it to make health care affordable?
I believe in minimum state:army,police,laws and tribunals but with some spice of welfare politics(public schools,free health care,etc...).In my country no politician that says he will get rid of public services such as schools and health care will ever get elected.We are not developed enough for everyon to pay for private schools and health care.
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Ok.You don't want to see reality.That is just it. Cognitive dissonance is hitting you hard.You don't believe your eyes and ears,it means you lost touch with reality.
 
#48
By making health care affordable, the quality will become low

Hence, why many will go to private hospitals instead of Government
Can you elaborate please. Are you saying that the quality of health care services decrease if more people are able to afford it and the profit margin is decreased? Like, the quality of insulin suddenly becomes lower because the manufacturers are not making the huge gargantuan level profit they were making before?
 
#49
By making health care affordable, the quality will become low

Hence, why many will go to private hospitals instead of Government
This is true,but not everyone can afford private health care.So its better than nothing.Also,lots of shitty and expensive private services going on...
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Can you elaborate please. Are you saying that the quality of health care services decrease if more people are able to afford it and the profit margin is decreased? Like, the quality of insulin suddenly becomes lower because the manufacturers are not making the huge gargantuan level profit they were making before?
Government are just bad administrators,they work with other's people money.It makes them lazy,because they themselves are not losing anything.
 
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Formerly Seth

#54
By making health care affordable, the quality will become low

Hence, why many will go to private hospitals instead of Government
This.

Dunno how it is elsewhere and doesn't care pretty much. In my ends, it's pretty normal but to some extent. Obviously, some bigger problems are expensive.

Although we at least don't have to run away from Ambulance so we don't have to pay for it.
 

K!NG HARA$H!MA

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#55
Can you elaborate please. Are you saying that the quality of health care services decrease if more people are able to afford it and the profit margin is decreased? Like, the quality of insulin suddenly becomes lower because the manufacturers are not making the huge gargantuan level profit they were making before?
Yeee, I subscribe to the idea that profits is the main motivation of anything in capitalist world.

The more profits you make, the better quality you produce and vice versa.
 
#56
You and this thread in general kinda reminded me how, back at Sabaody people were saying Celestial Dragons were an antisemitic allegory, so there’s that, I guess :kayneshrug:
I wasn't around op forums back in Sabaody days,i started watching the anime first.I always thought of celestial dragons as successful globalists.
 
#59
Government are just bad administrators,they work with other's people money.It makes them lazy,because they themselves are not losing anything.
I am talking about an ideal world. Not the corrupt people that are motivated by greed and money only. In this premise, You're problem with affordable health care is that humans cant be trusted to do the right thing. That is a very pessimistic view. And it means that you believe that we should have affordable health care but doesn't want it cause government bad.

Yeee, I subscribe to the idea that profits is the main motivation of anything in capitalist world.

The more profits you make, the better quality you produce and vice versa.
But there is a limit though. Like, the quality of health care services can only go so high, But the cost/price can and is almost always insanely inflated. And you CAN ensure better quality for affordable price under a just and accountable government. So it boils down to not electing people motivated by greed. ie, the quality doesn't have to rely on high prices, But we have made it so/gotten used to it being.
Although we at least don't have to run away from Ambulance so we don't have to pay for it.
This is a big issue. When right vs left and capitalism vs communism is discussed, people always go to US and China, the two extremes of both sides as an example.

But we have seen that they dont work long term or at all. So my suggestion would be the mixed economy. But even that has problems.
 
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