General & Others Letdown ?

#21
i guess you didnt read what i wrote above and just randomly spamming.

As for the BB thing, Oda started portray him really well at first and it was awesome, but down the line it started feeling a bit off. I cant take a villian/antagonist serious just because out of the blue he mastered some DF without showing us something for so many years.
The fact that BB only appeared for a few panels in the entire post time skip via a den den mushi shows how little Oda has developed the main antagonist.
 
#22
I didn't give a fuck about Arlong's crew. Didn't care about the BW members after Bon, didn't care about Gedatsu, didn't care about half of CP9, anyone under Moria, etc.

Teach is compelling because he's half mystery, a quarter similar to Luffy, and a quarter bastard inversion of Luffy. I started reading at the end of 2002 and I was impressed that four years later *that* guy showed up and ruined Ace with a monster ability. Then Luffy saw him in Impel Down in the middle of a massive scheme where he actually seemed encouraging, then Marineford, etc. It's just weird if you're gonna sit here like he's not more developed than Akainu and Im combined, or comparable in screentime to Shanks/Roger who have literally been two of the most relevant characters since the very first chapter.

We still don't even have the gorosei names, how tf do you complain about a character on the horizon with the magnitude of BB
When did i say that gorosei/akainu or whatever char are more developed than BB? I only talked about strenght wise for some of the chars i mentioned not char developemnt dont put words in my mouth please. The fact that you were impressed from BB during banaro/id/mf etc its exactly what im trying to say but you seem not to understand. banaro island was around 2006-07 if i remeber correct and ID 2008-09. SO we say the same thing, back then this character named BB was really interesting and Oda was trying to show us that he is growing in power and has a motive. It's been almost 15 years and Oda didnt show us shit about this, thats why he is letdown and if you compare the probably last crew that our MC will fight to Gedatsu or Arlong's crew then you are out of your mind.
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The fact that BB only appeared for a few panels in the entire post time skip via a den den mushi shows how little Oda has developed the main antagonist.
that is exactly what im trying to say to @Fn Lucci but the man keeps saying that he is well writen.
 
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#23
When did i say that gorosei/akainu or whatever char are more developed than BB?
So maybe you should open with a different character. There are much worse examples than BB, pre or post timeskip.

that is exactly what im trying to say to @Fn Lucci but the man keeps saying that he is well writen.
Lmao you're new here. Lee sits around here making threads on how much OP sucks and how it should be like Naruto. I mean it's 2022 and this man has a Matrix avatar. He complains about everything and concedes nothing... you're in bad company bud.
 
#24
that is exactly what im trying to say to @Fn Lucci but the man keeps saying that he is well writen.
There are certain users here who defend anything Oda writes, Fn Lucci is one of them. He will find away to twist your words to make himself believe he is right.

Your post about BB being under developed is absolutely correct. Oda rather write the Straw hats running away from Ceaser gas for 20 chapters than to use that time to develop his central characters.
 
#25
There are certain users here who defend anything Oda writes, Fn Lucci is one of them. He will find away to twist your words to make himself believe he is right.
Literally today:
- I think the biggest potential obstacles to coming close to three years are hard plot points. Some of Wano really fucking sucked and it was bizarre to see so many things hammered in without reasoning or follow through.
There's a such thing as being objectively wrong. Next?
 
#26
Literally today:

There's a such thing as being objectively wrong. Next?
Yea it took what four years and an epic ending failure, that not even hardcore fanboys like you can ignore, for you to finally say something negative about Oda's writing. Congratulations? Vast majority of what you say is in defense of Oda. Believe what you want dude, I don't care to argue with you.
 
#27
So maybe you should open with a different character. There are much worse examples than BB, pre or post timeskip.


Lmao you're new here. Lee sits around here making threads on how much OP sucks and how it should be like Naruto. I mean it's 2022 and this man has a Matrix avatar. He complains about everything and concedes nothing... you're in bad company bud.
Thats why i believe you didnt read my first post. I wrote about many characters but you stuck with BB and i told you many times why he is underdeveloped post TS. I dont think that OP sucks or naruto is better, of course OP is better but the reality is that after the TS the manga is going downhill sadly.
 
#28
Thats why i believe you didnt read my first post. I wrote about many characters but you stuck with BB and i told you many times why he is underdeveloped post TS. I dont think that OP sucks or naruto is better, of course OP is better but the reality is that after the TS the manga is going downhill sadly.
You said weak compared to other big shots. The best I can give you is power wise but that's debatable.

The only other ones you describe in your opening post are the gorosei, who are unnamed stooges. In the long run they're less relevant than CP0 even if they technically give the orders.

Kid was entirely out of the running once Kaido dropped out of the sky, and was clearly destined to become a second Law years ago, when Luffy actually seemed to care about the way he was being treated in prison.

Yea it took what four years and an epic ending failure, that not even hardcore fanboys like you can ignore, for you to finally say something negative about Oda's writing. Congratulations? Vast majority of what you say is in defense of Oda. Believe what you want dude, I don't care to argue with you.
It took something I didn't like to make me take issue. Right.

Go sniff more of your own shit in the threads you make about other manga on an OP forum lmao
 
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