Lille Barro vs Zenon Zogratis
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Zanpakuto can manipulate and cut space, we see this with Kenpachi against Gremmy and here
And yet Shunsui was completely incapable of affecting Lille without using Bankai
Not that it matters as even if we were to agree that Lille is spatially intangible and specifically manipulates space to do so, there's no evidence that Zenon's spatial manip can overcome Lille's own.
Not that it matters as even if we were to agree that Lille is spatially intangible and specifically manipulates space to do so, there's no evidence that Zenon's spatial manip can overcome Lille's own.
Zanpakuto can manipulate and cut space, we see this with Kenpachi against Gremmy and here
And yet Shunsui was completely incapable of affecting Lille without using Bankai
Not that it matters as even if we were to agree that Lille is spatially intangible and specifically manipulates space to do so, there's no evidence that Zenon's spatial manip can overcome Lille's own.
Not that it matters as even if we were to agree that Lille is spatially intangible and specifically manipulates space to do so, there's no evidence that Zenon's spatial manip can overcome Lille's own.
Try again
If Lille Barro falls to a spatial attack, there’s no reason another one isn’t just as effective. Their both attacks that erase space lol
It's proof of Zanpakuto manipulating space
And Kenpachi not only grabbed, but also literally cut through space to escape Gremmy's space room thing
And Kenpachi not only grabbed, but also literally cut through space to escape Gremmy's space room thing
Kenpachi is a good one but his whole thing with his Zanpaktou’s Shikai is about cutting through stuff. Gremmy even considered Galaxy Room a viable strategy precisely because it isn’t normally possible for Shinigami to cut through space itself
So thank you for proving my claim. So now that leaves Barro actually tanking a spatial attack
Nope, it’s a specific technique of getting back to Soul Society only. It’s why Garganta is needed to go anywhere else.
Kenpachi is a good one but his whole thing with his Zanpaktou’s Shikai is about cutting through stuff. Gremmy even considered Galaxy Room a viable strategy precisely because it isn’t normally possible for Shinigami to cut through space itself
So thank you for proving my claim. So now that leaves Barro actually tanking a spatial attack
Kenpachi is a good one but his whole thing with his Zanpaktou’s Shikai is about cutting through stuff. Gremmy even considered Galaxy Room a viable strategy precisely because it isn’t normally possible for Shinigami to cut through space itself
So thank you for proving my claim. So now that leaves Barro actually tanking a spatial attack
That's not what Gremmy said at all lmfao, and Gremmy's a complete dumbass, not sure why you think he'd be a reliable source of information.
Kenpachi grabbed and cut space, read slower next time.
If you're insinuating that Kenpachi's Shikai gives him the ability to cut and also somehow grab space then back that up with something, all we know about Kenpachi's Shikai is that it makes him stronger, same as his Bankai.
As is stands, I've shown two instances of Zanpakuto and their users manipulating space, it didn't do shit for Shunsui against Lille though so it isn't doing shit for Zenon.
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Oh look, here's Ulquiorra casually punching through space to escape from spatial bfr
How many examples will it take for your total bias to disappear
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You showed a scan of Renji creating a portal to Soul Society that has no further application
He said he’d use something without form. I.e. space itself.
He’s probably holding on to the dimensional wreckage made from cutting a gap in space. It’s something other characters in fiction have done. Point is that’s his own feat
Citation of Kyoraku cutting through space in their fight and Barro taking it then. A portal to Soul Society is irrelevant and you’ve only shown Kenpachi doing so whose both a War Potential and with a Zanpaktou that emphasizes cutting.
Doesn’t even matter. Wanna wank Bleach hard enough to claim every Zanpaktou cuts through space? Barro got cut through by concentrated enough Reiatsu anyway so it’s moot
He said he’d use something without form. I.e. space itself.
He’s probably holding on to the dimensional wreckage made from cutting a gap in space. It’s something other characters in fiction have done. Point is that’s his own feat
Citation of Kyoraku cutting through space in their fight and Barro taking it then. A portal to Soul Society is irrelevant and you’ve only shown Kenpachi doing so whose both a War Potential and with a Zanpaktou that emphasizes cutting.
Doesn’t even matter. Wanna wank Bleach hard enough to claim every Zanpaktou cuts through space? Barro got cut through by concentrated enough Reiatsu anyway so it’s moot
It doesn't need further application, the point is that Zanpakuto can manipulate space, a fact.
Yes to mock Kenpachi's "there's nothing I can't cut", funny how often you spam the word hyperbole and don't actually use it when it's most applicable.
"Probably" hurr durr
He's grabbing space dude, let it go, it's not debatable.
If Zanpakuto and their users can cut, grab and otherwise manipulate space then it stands to reason that Lille who is untouchable and uninteractable by all of them has a higher level of intangibility beyond that.
So no proof whatsoever that Kenpachi's Zanpakuto gives him a special ability to cut and also somehow grab space (independant of his Zanpakuto) lol
Shunsui's Bankai is straight up reality warping, that's how Lille was affected.
Also going to repost Ulquiorra punching through space as the final nail in the coffin of your absolutely shredded argument
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Yes to mock Kenpachi's "there's nothing I can't cut", funny how often you spam the word hyperbole and don't actually use it when it's most applicable.
"Probably" hurr durr
He's grabbing space dude, let it go, it's not debatable.
If Zanpakuto and their users can cut, grab and otherwise manipulate space then it stands to reason that Lille who is untouchable and uninteractable by all of them has a higher level of intangibility beyond that.
So no proof whatsoever that Kenpachi's Zanpakuto gives him a special ability to cut and also somehow grab space (independant of his Zanpakuto) lol
Shunsui's Bankai is straight up reality warping, that's how Lille was affected.
Also going to repost Ulquiorra punching through space as the final nail in the coffin of your absolutely shredded argument
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Only application Shinigami can use is creating portals
To counter a guy cutting his attacks, hit him with something that can’t normally be cut.
Only grabbing the edges, I.e. dimensional wreckage.
Only Kenpachi
Proof is he’s the only one that’s done it and its something Gremmy even tried.
No reality warping. Barro said all Shunsui did was cut him pure Spiritual Pressure to be able to take his head off.
Arrancara equivalent of portal creation Descorrer.
Try again
To counter a guy cutting his attacks, hit him with something that can’t normally be cut.
Only grabbing the edges, I.e. dimensional wreckage.
Only Kenpachi
Proof is he’s the only one that’s done it and its something Gremmy even tried.
No reality warping. Barro said all Shunsui did was cut him pure Spiritual Pressure to be able to take his head off.
Also going to repost Ulquiorra punching through space as the final nail in the coffin of your absolutely shredded argument
Try again
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Zanpakuto can manipulate space, keep coping it won't change anything
No, to counter a guy who's kicking your ass, dump him in a void where he suffocates, that was his intent
Dimensional wreckage isn't a thing, at least, not a real one, it's something you pulled out of your ass to avoid admitting you're wrong.
Every Shinigami and most likely every Bleach character, Kenpachi isn't stated or implied to have some special ability that lets him grab space
Ulquiorra punched through space, Kenpachi cut it, I also know of many more examples specifically novel ones but I can't be assed getting quotes
Shunsui's Bankai is pure reality warping, saying otherwise is just cope
Exposing how clueless you are about Bleach lmao, that isn't Descorrer, that's Ulquiorra punching his way out of dimensional BFR, Grimmjow locked him in a Caja Negacion and Ulquiorra punched his way through space to escape
This is a Descorrer lol, it looks nothing like that
Ulquiorra blatantly punches and shatters space, you'd either have to be blind or delusional to pretend otherwise
No, to counter a guy who's kicking your ass, dump him in a void where he suffocates, that was his intent
Dimensional wreckage isn't a thing, at least, not a real one, it's something you pulled out of your ass to avoid admitting you're wrong.
Every Shinigami and most likely every Bleach character, Kenpachi isn't stated or implied to have some special ability that lets him grab space
Ulquiorra punched through space, Kenpachi cut it, I also know of many more examples specifically novel ones but I can't be assed getting quotes
Shunsui's Bankai is pure reality warping, saying otherwise is just cope
Exposing how clueless you are about Bleach lmao, that isn't Descorrer, that's Ulquiorra punching his way out of dimensional BFR, Grimmjow locked him in a Caja Negacion and Ulquiorra punched his way through space to escape
This is a Descorrer lol, it looks nothing like that
Ulquiorra blatantly punches and shatters space, you'd either have to be blind or delusional to pretend otherwise
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To create non-lethal portals.
That he wasn’t believed to be able to cut through
Index, Carissa cutting through dimensions creates dimensional wrecks made from the edges cut that are physical and heavy
Yet he’s the only whose done so and Gremmy would have no reason to resort to it if it was something anyone could escape through.
Your the one coping right now, Barro got sliced by simple Reiatsu, no reality warping involved.
Takes several hours for him just to break out of a pocket dimension. Which tells me more it wearing out over time trying to contain him than anything else.
Try again
That he wasn’t believed to be able to cut through
Index, Carissa cutting through dimensions creates dimensional wrecks made from the edges cut that are physical and heavy
Yet he’s the only whose done so and Gremmy would have no reason to resort to it if it was something anyone could escape through.
Your the one coping right now, Barro got sliced by simple Reiatsu, no reality warping involved.
Exposing how clueless you are about Bleach lmao, that isn't Descorrer, that's Ulquiorra punching his way out of dimensional BFR, Grimmjow locked him in a Caja Negacion and Ulquiorra punched his way through space to escape
This is a Descorrer lol, it looks nothing like that
Ulquiorra blatantly punches and shatters space, you'd either have to be blind or delusional to pretend otherwise
This is a Descorrer lol, it looks nothing like that
Ulquiorra blatantly punches and shatters space, you'd either have to be blind or delusional to pretend otherwise
Try again
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Manipulate space
To suffocate, that was Gremmy's intent
So yes, a made up thing that's not real and isn't a concept in Bleach, wow
Except we see his fist punch through space lad, I know your sole purpose here is to downplay Bleach so you've got act extremely stupid and fail to grasp even basic things, but this isn't debatable, at all.
Calm down
To suffocate, that was Gremmy's intent
So yes, a made up thing that's not real and isn't a concept in Bleach, wow
- Gremmy's an idiot
- Gremmy wasn't trying to keep Kenpachi trapped, he was trying to suffocate him in a void
Except we see his fist punch through space lad, I know your sole purpose here is to downplay Bleach so you've got act extremely stupid and fail to grasp even basic things, but this isn't debatable, at all.
Calm down
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Manipulate space
To suffocate, that was Gremmy's intent
So yes, a made up thing that's not real and isn't a concept in Bleach, wow
To suffocate, that was Gremmy's intent
So yes, a made up thing that's not real and isn't a concept in Bleach, wow
- Gremmy's an idiot
- Gremmy wasn't trying to keep Kenpachi trapped, he was trying to suffocate him in a void
- To quote again. Gremmy: “You can cut anything?” Than I’ll use something that has no form.
Except we see his fist punch through space lad, I know your sole purpose here is to downplay Bleach so you've got act extremely stupid and fail to grasp even basic things, but this isn't debatable, at all.
Calm down
Calm down
RIP to your earlier claim that any Zanpakto cuts through space when they can’t right here with every captain including Yamamoto present
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Which was sarcasm due to Kenpachi's statement of being able to cut anything lol, doesn't change that his actual intent was to just put Kenpachi in a vacuum and suffocate him
I've no idea what your point is with that last part, so what if the Menos can create a forcefield that even spatial manip can't bypass...?
I've no idea what your point is with that last part, so what if the Menos can create a forcefield that even spatial manip can't bypass...?
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By using something he thought he couldn’t cut.
Yamamoto literally says the whole reason they can’t get through is because they have to cut through the space their now in to reach them which they can’t.
Proof right there your so called space manipulation for Shinigami is just a specific technique only for getting to the Soul Society. RIP
Yamamoto literally says the whole reason they can’t get through is because they have to cut through the space their now in to reach them which they can’t.
Proof right there your so called space manipulation for Shinigami is just a specific technique only for getting to the Soul Society. RIP
And so what? Gremmy is an idiot and a Quincy, why is he suppose to know what Shinigami can and can't cut?
Nowhere in those scans you posted does Yamamoto say those words
And your argument is irrelevant anyway as at best it just means Negacion is strong enough to where their ability to cut space can't bypass it
Regardless, not pushing aside blatant feats such as punching, grabbing and cutting space, sorry.
Nowhere in those scans you posted does Yamamoto say those words
And your argument is irrelevant anyway as at best it just means Negacion is strong enough to where their ability to cut space can't bypass it
Regardless, not pushing aside blatant feats such as punching, grabbing and cutting space, sorry.
And he’s spot on with how every Captain can’t deal with Negaccion
Nope, Yama says them being in a separate space is precisely why they can’t breach it. Not that it’s especially strong. He says nothing about its strength in fact, just emphasizing the mechanic at work which is why they can’t get to Aizen.
So much for your Space cutting Shinigami headcanon that not even Captains can pull. Only Kenpachi is shown to do it with a sword meant to cut through stuff as it’s gimmick.
All they do is create portals to return to Soul Society, Try again
Nope, Yama says them being in a separate space is precisely why they can’t breach it. Not that it’s especially strong. He says nothing about its strength in fact, just emphasizing the mechanic at work which is why they can’t get to Aizen.
So much for your Space cutting Shinigami headcanon that not even Captains can pull. Only Kenpachi is shown to do it with a sword meant to cut through stuff as it’s gimmick.
All they do is create portals to return to Soul Society, Try again