Alexis, AM, Jag

can all get put in the do more or get shot pile
Rule of 3? In another post Hayumi only put townies as supects

As far as Ratchet goes, the longer he lives the more suspicious he becomes naturally so I’ll be keeping an eye out on his slot.
That's true. Distancing?

It’s not wifom, killing Naomi first is just a bird brain play but clearly there was a reason.
There was a reason for killing Naomi. Maybe pointing to Rarchet who's town?

Ekko

Flower town

orca GTH scum,

Ratchet GTH town, need more at this point and the longer he’s alive the more likely I am to be down to yeet his ass
I think Ekko’s case on Koba is a tragic reach, we should be yeeting him
Koba literally isn’t a leading wagon tho…unless things changed since I was here last it’s you or Ekko
Because if Ekko doesn’t have a real chance to get lynched today I’d prefer you over Koba

I think Ekko’s scum and he’s being so adamant about offing Koba I don’t want to lynch him today
Ah well I'd pick hime to vote between the two, looks like I have plenty of time tho. See ya
I have Hayumi as a slight town lean rn, shes been trending down a bit but not someone id wanna lynch anytime soon.
eh
Oh ok cool, I was about to tell my mates to axe tf out of you
Who else do you scum read besides Ekko.
Orca, and I could see YTW being an inactive scum sub in as well.
There's no way Hayumi bussed both mathes here, Orca should be town
Reasoning for Orca?
surface-level posts without following up or really trying to push a direction forward from what I’ve seen
That's how Orca plays anyway
I’d expect town Orca to be putting in a little more effort to solve idk.

But I do have Polar as a town lean and he apparently has Orca as townie so I’m not too confident in that read.
Nah. I am waiting it for games. Nada.


I agree with a lot of his thoughts on Ekko, and I think he’s come across as very genuine.




Read these and tell me why you’d rather vote him over Ekko when this man has you guys both paired and preflipped

There's no answer from Koba here




I am asking how can you be sure about your vote since you think it's best to vote when you are sure. What makes you to he sure?
The thank you for your response post.

but if you rather have me vote for you because you know something, do tell because it was either I vote for you or jag.
That post is not AI per se.

If Jag flips scum, what's next?
If he flips town, same question.
@Alwaysmind you forgot to answer this
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I can claim, don't think it will change anything though.

I'm a redirector. There is a small twist on this which I'll get to later. I haven't used it very aggressively because of this twist.

Last night I redirected AM to Orca. Because of this I don't think AM is sole scum and I do remain fairly confident Kweh was one of them so my thinking is AM is fine.

The night before I redirected Jag to Kweh. The night before that I redirected AM to Kweh. That's all I've done, didn't use anything the first two nights.

So, the twist. So I basically have this stack of 5 things in my possession. If I redirect kills or am targeted by any ability that's harmful I lose 1. Once I run out I die. Night 2 I was targeted by something because I lost one. Then Night 3 I lost another one. I don't know if that was because I redirected something or because I was targeted with something. But given that it was AM I targeted that night I thibk I was probably hit with something.

On the topic of today, I'll just say I haven't been engaged with this game for basically all of the kast week. My feeling is it's probably between Orca and maybe Koba, but I have stronger feelings on my town core. On that note though I've seen my name dropped here by Koba and Michelle and Orca and I feel this isn't very genuine from at least one of those. My play around Yo Tan should more or less clear me as town but for some reason these three are acting as though Hayumi is the only scum flip we've had. And out of the three I buy Orca's progression the least, he just drops me in there without any reasoning. Michelle probably has the best reasoning but it still seems a bit too restricted for my liking. Back to Yo Tan, I was actually a key reason for his being wagoned in the first place, but I didn't even vote him initially which makes no sense as a bus. If I'm going to bury a scum mate like I did you would think I'd want some credit for it. Instead I just let Fuji and York take it all despite Fuji using my reasoning as a means to sell the case.

So my vote preference today is Orca but I'm not voting yet.
 
Rule of 3? In another post Hayumi only put townies as supects


That's true. Distancing?


There was a reason for killing Naomi. Maybe pointing to Rarchet who's town?







eh



There's no way Hayumi bussed both mathes here, Orca should be town

That's how Orca plays anyway
Nah. I am waiting it for games. Nada.






There's no answer from Koba here





@Alwaysmind you forgot to answer this
I thought that I did answer. He had one robotic sounding answer that I perceived as a slip from his usual posting style. I can’t spend the entire game undecided. I had to make a decision and felt confident that they were the right option because something just felt off.
I was wrong.
 
I can claim, don't think it will change anything though.

I'm a redirector. There is a small twist on this which I'll get to later. I haven't used it very aggressively because of this twist.

Last night I redirected AM to Orca. Because of this I don't think AM is sole scum and I do remain fairly confident Kweh was one of them so my thinking is AM is fine.

The night before I redirected Jag to Kweh. The night before that I redirected AM to Kweh. That's all I've done, didn't use anything the first two nights.

So, the twist. So I basically have this stack of 5 things in my possession. If I redirect kills or am targeted by any ability that's harmful I lose 1. Once I run out I die. Night 2 I was targeted by something because I lost one. Then Night 3 I lost another one. I don't know if that was because I redirected something or because I was targeted with something. But given that it was AM I targeted that night I thibk I was probably hit with something.

On the topic of today, I'll just say I haven't been engaged with this game for basically all of the kast week. My feeling is it's probably between Orca and maybe Koba, but I have stronger feelings on my town core. On that note though I've seen my name dropped here by Koba and Michelle and Orca and I feel this isn't very genuine from at least one of those. My play around Yo Tan should more or less clear me as town but for some reason these three are acting as though Hayumi is the only scum flip we've had. And out of the three I buy Orca's progression the least, he just drops me in there without any reasoning. Michelle probably has the best reasoning but it still seems a bit too restricted for my liking. Back to Yo Tan, I was actually a key reason for his being wagoned in the first place, but I didn't even vote him initially which makes no sense as a bus. If I'm going to bury a scum mate like I did you would think I'd want some credit for it. Instead I just let Fuji and York take it all despite Fuji using my reasoning as a means to sell the case.

So my vote preference today is Orca but I'm not voting yet.
Do you think the way Hayumi treated Orca shows they can be partners?

Also yes, I don't put much weight into YoTanWa's lynch because he was the best slot to bus and gain town credit.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Do you think the way Hayumi treated Orca shows they can be partners?

Also yes, I don't put much weight into YoTanWa's lynch because he was the best slot to bus and gain town credit.
Right, but like I said, what I did makes no sense as a bus, because I didn't consolidate anything from it. I would be basically saying "hey Fuji/York, go take all the credit while I tell you why my mate is scum to make sure he dies". You would think I'd be making sure to get something from a bus, no?
As for Hayumi, unless you've got something you'd like me to read then you'll need to make your case. Hayumi was outed early on the day he was lynched and I don't factor in anything from there because he would be playing with an eye on knowing his death is imminent.
 
Right, but like I said, what I did makes no sense as a bus, because I didn't consolidate anything from it. I would be basically saying "hey Fuji/York, go take all the credit while I tell you why my mate is scum to make sure he dies". You would think I'd be making sure to get something from a bus, no?
As for Hayumi, unless you've got something you'd like me to read then you'll need to make your case. Hayumi was outed early on the day he was lynched and I don't factor in anything from there because he would be playing with an eye on knowing his death is imminent.
I took things from the first days, you can read what I quoted in my yesterday and today posts.
I would appreciate your take on them
 
Do you think the way Hayumi treated Orca shows they can be partners?

Also yes, I don't put much weight into YoTanWa's lynch because he was the best slot to bus and gain town credit.
+ on the bussing aspect. I think the fact I completely forgot the guy existed and didn't use them for cred should be +town for me lmao
 
I think you're working with partual info which is clouding your read completely.

Regardless why are you alive in a scum me world? Please explain this asap.
Be honest, would you NK a low posting me in any moment of this game regardless my read?
If I have just partial info, what did I miss?
 
Although it's incredibly difficult to work with Michelle when she is confirmation biased lmao.

Hayumi very clearly pocketed me instead of me defending them as scum/scum.

Of course scum hayumi has a vested interest in keeping me alive and doesn't want me to go over and wants cred on that in case I do. They didn't go out of their way to defend me hard iirc when ekko was hard tunneling me.

Its incredibly frustrating when the clearly towny aspects of my play like trying to force town out of a town/town/town tunnel on day 2 or push people away from the Alexis conflict are being completely ignored. (It was because that Alexis conflict was pushed passed why we ended up killing mafia there)
 
Be honest, would you NK a low posting me in any moment of this game regardless my read?
If I have just partial info, what did I miss?
Yes. I know your potential. I don't shy away from killing people who I know are future threats to me if I'm scum. However if we're both town you're being labeled a sucker being left alive.

I'm not gonna capitalute to doing immense work for you though for extremely little pay off. You've shown time and time again that it's extremely pointless. Bit sad though I was almost happy for you especially since you got your sub slot that you got over your curse with me and finally was able to correctly town me. Instead you're back to default scumreading me every single game.
 
You're not going to listen to me because you were right on me being scum once in our most recent game but I hope after this game you think about trying to be right about me being town for once lol
 
1. Ratchet - Town/ SK
7. Polar Bear - ??
9. Fujishiro - Town
10. Michelle - (I don't trust my instincts anymore)
12. KWEH - Town
14. MangoSenpai -
15. Alwaysmind - Town
16. The Orca - SK/ Town
17. Jaguark101 - Maf/ town
18. DkKoba - Town/ SK

This is currently how I am kind of feeling about the current player list.
I am a little worried that Jag is bait, but at the same time it is getting harder to find who to go for..


For now I've forfeit my read on Michelle because I am worried that I may have been cooking in another plane of existence with that one..

So that really leaves Jag and Polar as tier 1 suspects, Orca at Tier 2 and Koba/ Ratchet as Tier 3 suspects.

I'm not sure I even want humor a SK!Fuji world, so I'm not going to.
However if you get miseliminated after me Michelle it is going to be somewhat your own fault because I don't blame anyone if I were to flip that they'd kill you in a lylo situation. In fact I will say that if you keep pushing a tunnel on me by hand waving the points for me being town I might need to have you resolved before endgame and if that plays into scum hands oh well I think at this point it's a lesson you have to learn
 
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