Powers & Abilities Lineage Factor and the Vinsmoke children

[Chrono]

Because they seem to enhance the powers they have. But explain me how you enhance invisbilty

Many ways. He could turn other things invisible and what not. You're arguing for no reason. There isnt an extra secret power Judge was gonna give Sanji. It was purely invisibility. Ironically the power he's always wanted.

 

[Hedfi]

Even if you are right. We don't know this. And that's why I hope we someday will learn what Sanji's dormant powers would be WITHOUT the suit.

If it is just invisbilty it is stupid as fuck if the suit does so but at least we would know it.

If Sanji has some kind of dormant power it'll be related with his DJ. Judge's modification were ruined by Sora's drug case in he doesn't have the inborn super strength or exoskeleton that all Vinsmokes siblings have.

 

[Kishido]

So with suit he somehow could make other things invisbile... Ok... Makes sense.

Without it he needed to be naked when going invisbile.

Again. I am not even telling that you are wrong but I think it is stupid if a suit can make you invisbile already and doesn't seem to enhance shit If he could do so without it.

Comparing it to the other kids is bullshit because their at least we have seen other shit like a lightning sword or gadget arms that enhances their stuff.

 

[Chrono]

So with suit he somehow could make other things invisbile... Ok... Makes sense.

Without it he needed to be naked when going invisbile.

Again. I am not even telling that you are wrong but I think it is stupid if a suit can make you invisbile already and doesn't seem to enhance shit If he could do so without it.

Comparing it to the other kids is bullshit because their at least we have seen other shit like a lightning sword or gadget arms that enhances their stuff.

Who's saying it wouldnt enhance his invisibility powers....if he had them. Anyways you do realise that the main features of the RS is the durability, flight, boosters. Even if the suit wouldnt benefit the invisibility, it wouldve given Sanji all those benefits if he had invisibility.

Ichiji and Reiju both dont have weapons, meaning the RS enhances their abilities

 

[Kishido]

Who's saying it wouldnt enhance his invisibility powers....if he had them. Anyways you do realise that the main features of the RS is the durability, flight, boosters. Even if the suit wouldnt benefit the invisibility, it wouldve given Sanji all those benefits if he had invisibility.

Ichiji and Reiju both dont have weapons, meaning the RS enhances their abilities

And again... Give me a good reason to say it would enhance it in some way. So far I can't see anything the suit couldn't do without Sanji having his genetic invisbilty.

Making him double invisbile is not a proper enhancement

 

[Lunaria]

Sanji having another genetic ability that can be associated with stealth is a possibility, let’s not discard it. What can be linked to stealth besides invisibility ?

- extreme speed
- sound cancellation (credit to @Kishido)

Maybe even Mane Mane or Memo Memo fruit ? They don’t exactly work the same way but the purpose is similar : deceiving people to avoid getting caught.

 

[Chrono]

Sanji having another genetic ability that can be associated with stealth is a possibility, let’s not discard it. What can be linked to stealth besides invisibility ?

- extreme speed
- sound cancellation (credit to @Kishido)

Maybe even Mane Mane or Memo Memo fruit ? They don’t exactly work the same way but the purpose is similar : deceiving people to avoid getting caught.

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And again... Give me a good reason to say it would enhance it in some way. So far I can't see anything the suit couldn't do without Sanji having his genetic invisbilty.

Making him double invisbile is not a proper enhancement

If Sanji was modified by Judge and never left Germa. The suit would still provide him durability, flight and boosters. Thats extremely useful. It doesnt even need to enhance shit for him tbh.

 

[Lunaria]

And again... Give me a good reason to say it would enhance it in some way. So far I can't see anything the suit couldn't do without Sanji having his genetic invisbilty.

Making him double invisbile is not a proper enhancement

Foxy could only freeze time for 30 seconds, right ? So maybe Sanji’s invisibility without the suit would be limited in time because it would be dependant on his stamina ?

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Great argument. It’s not up to you anyway.

 

[Kishido]

Foxy could only freeze time for 30 seconds, right ? So maybe Sanji’s invisibility without the suit would be limited in time because it would be dependant on his stamina ?




Great argument. It’s not up to you anyway.

That would be OK with me. But it would mean Sanji's suit would work without his powers as well

Does that mean that the RS could mimic all powers without th children having them actually per genetic

 

[Lunaria]

That would be OK with me. But it would mean Sanji's suit would work without his powers as well

Does that mean that the RS could mimic all powers without th children having them actually per genetic

Another possibility is that the power was originally supposed to come from Sanji himself but since he didn’t get it, that was added to his suit instead.

 

[Kishido]

Another possibility is that the power was originally supposed to come from Sanji himself but since he didn’t get it, that was added to his suit instead.

And this would make sense the most if that is really Sanji's genetic powers

What would this mean for the future? Maybe he would awaken his powers but ok the other hand lose the raid suit and nothing would change that much

 

[Hedfi]

Another possibility is that the power was originally supposed to come from Sanji himself but since he didn’t get it, that was added to his suit instead.

Reiju's suit could help her absorp poison from Luffy so her RS was originally capable of poison powers from the start. There's no reason to think that Sanji's suit would be any different than hers. Besides, Judge does't care about Sanji so why would he add invisibility powers to an RS that was intended to a failure per his word. No, his RS has an invisibility feature to it from the start too.

 

[Kishido]

Reiju's suit could help her absorp poison from Luffy so her RS was originally capable of poison powers from the start. There's no reason to think that Sanji's suit would be any different than hers. Besides, Judge does't care about Sanji so why would he add invisibility powers to an RS that was intended to a failure per his word. No, his RS has an invisibility feature to it from the start too.

Reiju kissed Luffy to do so... So was her raid suit there as well?

So another question. Why would Judge give them the same genetic powers if the raid suit already have them instead of powers to be combined with?

It would be like giving Luffy a Gomu Gomu RS

 

[Hedfi]

Reiju kissed Luffy to do so... So was her raid suit there as well?

So another question. Why would Judge give them the same genetic powers if the raid suit already have them instead of powers to be combined with?

It would be like giving Luffy a Gomu Gomu RS

Yes she was wearing her RS. And I think it was shown that it glowed when she sucked the poison from Luffy.

The RS has the same power to enhance their already present power not counting the other advantages like flight, etc...

For example it could be that Niji could only use up to a million watts at max in his attacks but with the aid of his RS he could use up to 10 million watts.

Their specific powers could be enhanced in multitude of other ways too.

You could also think of it this way. They already have exoskeletons as an armor and protection so why is it that their RS give them protection in the form of an armor cape to protect them too. See the parallel here.

 

[Kishido]

Yes she was wearing her RS. And I think it was shown that it glowed when she sucked the poison from Luffy.

The RS has the same power to enhance their already present power not counting the other advantages like flight, etc...

For example it could be that Niji could only use up to a million watts at max in his attacks but with the aid of his RS he could use up to 10 million watts.

Their specific powers could be enhanced in multitude of other ways too.

You could also think of it this way. They already have exoskeletons as an armor and protection so why is it that their RS give them protection in the form of an armor cape to protect them too. See the parallel here.

Ok but how would it work with invisbilty

 

[Lunaria]

Reiju's suit could help her absorp poison from Luffy so her RS was originally capable of poison powers from the start. There's no reason to think that Sanji's suit would be any different than hers. Besides, Judge does't care about Sanji so why would he add invisibility powers to an RS that was intended to a failure per his word. No, his RS has an invisibility feature to it from the start too.

It’s not clear how Reiju’s poison works, there’s no clear indication of her suit helping her absorb poison. From what I understood, she only stored the poison in her wings so she could use it offensively later. I wasn’t under the impression the suit had any poison related ability.

 

[Hedfi]

Ok but how would it work with invisbilty

I already answered you with an example earlier where he could only be transparent on his own and completly invible with the RS. Another example is that he'snt able to make his normal clothes invisible on his own without the RS or if he was modified he's able with the help of the RS make whatever weapons in his possession invisible. Literaly, any kind of invisibility apllication that you could come up with could be an explanation.
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It’s not clear how Reiju’s poison works, there’s no clear indication of her suit helping her absorb poison. From what I understood, she only stored the poison in her wings so she could use it offensively later. I wasn’t under the impression the suit had any poison related ability.

Storing poison itself is a poison ability LoL

 

[PrinceKun]

Sora being linked with Sora the Legend, means she would have ties with the WG and Vegapunk. Vegapunk is the only one capable of making that drug for her.

I didn't think about it, judge probably didn't make the drug because he wants the experiment to work

If vegapunk gave the drug to sora he might have added something to it