Powers & Abilities "Ling can use magma" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[SakazOuki]

I got my anwer
U dumb

Sit

 

[grey matter]

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ellish-memories-vs-frankies-right-kick.58951/
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/king-vs-doflamingo-queen.59186/#post-5560436
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...the-grandmaster-zoro.6/page-1365#post-5550495
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/can-kaido-control-magma.31298/
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...and-possibly-even-internal-destruction.20356/

Oh ok, I see. Some of these posts do claim it's magma I see. Fair enough.
Seems like shishio and monsterkaido definitely did claim it's magma.

But some of these are also just for the sake of easier expression if we're being honest. Saying "magma dragon" is simply easier than saying "dragon made by magma-esque flames" for example.

If u check up the spoiler thread for the respective chapters where King and Kaido used the flames respectively you will definitely find countless. As well as the threads created around that time.

I can give you the argument though.

The argument for King was that because Zoro cut the Magma-like flames he can cut Magma now and thus it's bad news for Akainu. We told them that flame and molten rock are not the same. With the Foxfire style Zoro can cut flames but has yet not proven to do the same to real Magma.

The argument for Kaido was that he was Magma resistant because he covered himself with it thus Akainu has no chance against him.

I can see them now, I didn't know people used to actually argue it's magma.

Anyway, I don't see why they are wrong about Zoro and Kaido though.

Magma is essentially flames + molten rocks. I don't see why Zoro won't be able to cut it.

I think we can reasonably consider those flames to be similar in properties to magma - luffy/zoro mentioning that they are like magma, Kaido's flames melted through rock (which is basically what magma is - flames + molten rock), King's flame did the same in anime, both those flames have visual similarities with magma.
I think it's fair to argue that Kaido should have resistance against magma, given he coated himself with flames thick & hot enough to be capable of creating magma.

Doesn't mean Zoro wins against Akainu or Akainu would be helpless against Kaido though.

It's funny how these users are gaslighting admiral fans into believing they never said stuff like that...

Who am I trying to gaslight?
I legit didn't know that people used to actually claim that King and Kaido could produce real magma.

Canonically, they are just described as magma like flames

 

[Sentinel]

Who am I trying to gaslight?

Nah, it's not about you.

Read the first posts of this thread and you see what I'm talking about.

 

[kekaro]

Oh ok, I see. Some of these posts do claim it's magma I see. Fair enough.
Seems like shishio and monsterkaido definitely did claim it's magma.

But some of these are also just for the sake of easier expression if we're being honest. Saying "magma dragon" is simply easier than saying "dragon made by magma-esque flames" for example.

I mean they are more like I showed in the other post those 2 are not the only one by far. But yeah I think you got the point
As for the second part, I still think thats cap. Like with all statements, a statement from a character has to be put into context.

So first of all, I looked in the japanes raws to be sure. Zoro says "its like magma". He doesn't say its as hot or ferocious or whatever like magma. So for all we know he could refer to all kinds of properties here. Thats also reinforced if you compare it to Akainu the only other "magma" we saw up close, which would combust peoples clothes while just being near it, which didn't happen with zoro for example. Second, Zoro has never seen Magma in his life.
And those comments are not referring to "magma-esque dragon" in a vacuum but to some arbitrary lethality of those attacks that were never demonstrated, where is not any basis for it so they are garbanzo statements too as well clearly piggybacking of that narrative.



Just a reminder Zoro also compared Lings goofy attack to a laser, just because it was fast and he was unable to block it. While the more apt comparison would have been like a sling or even a railgun, not a laser which has neither the mass nor how the acceleration works of that attack. And zoro actually saw a laser upclose, even tho maybe his brain doesn't understand it.

This is just not a good source like many other character moments, including from the same fight

 

[Hamlette]

I mean they are more like I showed in the other post those 2 are not the only one by far. But yeah I think you got the point
As for the second part, I still think that cap. Like with all statements, a statement from a character has to be put into context.

So first of all, I looked in the japanes raws to be sure. Zoro says "its like magma". He doesn't say its as hot or ferocious or whatever like magma. So for all we know he could refer to all kinds of properties here. Thats also reinforced if you compare it to Akainu the only other "magma" we saw up close, which would combust peoples clothes while just being near it, which didn't happen with zoro for example. Second, Zoro has never seen Magma in his life.
And those comments are not referring to "magma-esque dragon" to some arbitrary lethality of those attacks that were never demonstrated, where is not any basis for it so they are garbanzo as well clearly piggybacking of that narrative.



Just a reminder Zoro also compared Lings goofy attack to a laser, just because it was fast and he was unable to block it. While the more apt comparison would have been like a sling or even a railgun, not a laser which has neither the mass nor how the acceleration works. And zoro actually saw a laser upclose, even tho maybe his brain doesn't understand it.

This is just not a good source like many other character moments, including from the same fight

So you're telling me that Zoro is not a Volcanologist who has a Scientifically backed knowledge based understanding of the property, characteristics and exact temperatures of magma?. Surely you're downplaying him here; talking as if he's some type of idiot who wouldn't be able to identify the explicit and unique characteristics of a Lunarian even after he had a life and death experience fighting one previously. Are you accusing the Grandmaster of using common-human-peasanty figurative devices like hyperboles?.