General & Others List of characters Oda hates

#61
#63
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he grew 3x bigger, had wings, fangs, and weird eyes..
Most shonen made us believe in mega-ultra-rationnal people on the battlefield like Light Yagami or Tanjuro. But this is not One Piece. One Piece is humanly romantic and at the same time still realistic. Meaning that people will have biases and make many, many, many MANY mistakes all the time. Which is why the story feels organic.
 
#64
Most shonen made us believe in mega-ultra-rationnal people on the battlefield like Light Yagami or Tanjuro. But this is not One Piece. One Piece is humanly romantic and at the same time still realistic. Meaning that people will have biases and make many, many, many MANY mistakes all the time. Which is why the story feels organic.

Here, people didn't really had the time to rationnalize the situation. In a world of devil fruits, Xebec becoming stronger with wings is not really that far fetch. We have to remember Luffy couldn't even recognize Usopp under a mask.
i don't care for your hastily thought out excuses. whitebeard not recognizing it while roger and garp did is objectively terrible writing.
 
#65
Most shonen made us believe in mega-ultra-rationnal people on the battlefield like Light Yagami or Tanjuro. But this is not One Piece. One Piece is humanly romantic and at the same time still realistic. Meaning that people will have biases and make many, many, many MANY mistakes all the time. Which is why the story feels organic.
Logiko what are your thoughts on Big Daddy Saran?
 
#66
i don't care for your hastily thought out excuses. whitebeard not recognizing it while roger and garp did is objectively terrible writing.
This is a problem I always had with people reading the story transversally.

They look at the action or thoughts of characters as if they were machines, thinking that One Piece is just another shonen were protagonist are supposed to understand each actions possible at every single moment and only making mistakes that we can clearly see and understand.

But again, this is not what One Piece is. One Piece is demanding in term of empathy and observations since the devil lies in the details. Without that, people will most of the time fail to grasp the subtilities of the behaviors, especially the mistakes of characters.

People are not shocked when Luffy does not recognize Usopp, its funny and it makes sense narratively, the same way, people will often overlook the fact that in Whole cake LUffy actually see through people (pretty much everyone). This is because narratively and humanly, Luffy was in seeking mode in this arc, much more empathetic, much more focused on the feelings of others and this is what allowed him to learn observations haki rapidely..... And yet, they do not take the time to step back and analyze the fact that this is exactly what they would criticize in the case of characters like Xebec or Whitebeard.

You need to read the story in context.
Logiko what are your thoughts on Big Daddy Saran?
SOrry, who is Big Daddy Saran ?
 
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#68
This is a problem I always had with people reading the story transversally.

They look at the action or thoughts of characters as if they were machines, thinking that One Piece is just another shonen were protagonist are supposed to understand each actions possible at every single moment and only making mistakes that we can clearly see and understand.

But again, this is not what One Piece is. One Piece is demanding in term of empathy and observations since the devil lies in the details. Without that, people will most of the time fail to grasp the subtilities of the behaviors, especially the mistakes of characters.

People are not shocked when Luffy does not recognize Usopp, its funny and it makes sense narratively, the same way, people will often overlook the fact that in Whole cake LUffy actually see through people (pretty much everyone). This is because narratively and humanly, Luffy was in seeking mode in this arc, much more empathetic, much more focused on the feelings of others and this is what allowed him to learn observations haki rapidely..... And yet, they do not take the time to step back and analyze the fact that this is exactly what they would criticize in the case of characters like Xebec or Whitebeard.

You need to read the story in context.

SOrry, who is Big Daddy Saran ?
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...nd-his-backstory-saran-big-daddy-d-rox.41712/
 
#69
I never thought Oda actually disliked one of his "main" characters, but If Elbaf ends with Usopp biggest moment being a 2 pages speech after he got negged by a cat at the beginning of the arc and he couldn't be bothered to give him more in the island he been dreaming about for the past twenty years, it is truly over.
After the arc, Ussop to Oda
 
#77
It's odd cause I still get the feeling Oda has fun drawing him. But only as a side comic relief.
I think Oda just doesn't know how to make him relevant with how hard powercreep hit One Piece, so he gave up as there is more important shit anyway
Oda forgot Usopp unlocked long-range wind speed calculating observation haki 600 chapters ago and regressed him back to useless punching bag :suresure:
 
#78
Anyways the only two characters Oda is guaranteed to hate are Usopp and Drake. Kidd was served on a platter to hype Shanks that was his role, Oda played it brilliantly by balancing Kidd's portrayal with midass feats unworthy of his 3 bil berry bounty. Rank C fruit compared to S-tier fruits like Nika and Ope too

Usopp and Drake legit didn't have such horrible portrayals from start. Oda had them do absolutely nothing good and come up with nothing good in the end. Clowns with no redemption and awful portrayal. Drake esp was so laughable even Ulti and P1 looked immensely better than him
 
#79
2010 just called, they are scandalized.


Only clear for us. In reality, Most people felt like it was actually Xebec, only Roger and Rayleigh really catched the problem. We have to remember whitebeard had no friendship with Xebec.
He knew Xebec for a decade before God Valley and you don’t need to be bosom friends with somebody to realize something is wrong when they grow 2x in size and have wings sprout out their back
 
#80
Anyways the only two characters Oda is guaranteed to hate are Usopp and Drake. Kidd was served on a platter to hype Shanks that was his role, Oda played it brilliantly by balancing Kidd's portrayal with midass feats unworthy of his 3 bil berry bounty. Rank C fruit compared to S-tier fruits like Nika and Ope too

Usopp and Drake legit didn't have such horrible portrayals from start. Oda had them do absolutely nothing good and come up with nothing good in the end. Clowns with no redemption and awful portrayal. Drake esp was so laughable even Ulti and P1 looked immensely better than him
Drake sucks.
 
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